Comparing Daeth and Petermh5: A Serious Thread about Trolls

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macer75

Ok... so I'll assume that everyone knows who Daeth is. And I'm sure pretty much everyone who has been around long enough knows who Petermh5 is, but just can't recall off the top of their head. So just as a reminder, Petermh5 is the guy who started this thread:

http://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/you-should-be-forced-to-resign

I think it is accurate to say that both of these guys were one hit wonder trolls who created one thread that generated a huge amount of activity and discussion on the chess.com forums. But despite their similarities, the legacies of these two trolls on the chess.com forums are very different. Despite having left chess.com, and having his thread deleted, Daeth continues to be widely remembered today, along with the opining that he invinted. In fact, when GeorgeBlackChess created the wayback machine thread a couple of days ago, one of the first things that people did with it was find Daeth's thread. Petermh5, on the other hand, seems to have long since been forgotten by the chess.com community. For about a month after he created his thread, the scale of attention that it attracted was comparable to that of the Daeth thread, and as far as I've seen, to this date it is the last thread to have ever attracted such attention. Yet ever since his thread was locked, I have never seen a single mention of him anywhere on the forums.

So the question here is, why? How could two very similar trolls, each of whom created one of the most classic threads in modern chess.com history, differ so much in the degree of lasting influence that they have?

macer75
harryz wrote:
"Comparing Daeth and Petermh5: A Serious Thread about Trolls"

Since when can a thread about trolls be serious?

When it asks a question that delves into the intricacies of the inner workings of the chess.com community.

ajttja

OMG macer actually started a serious thread!!!

(oh, it's more trolling [sigh])

macer75
harryz wrote:

Yep, its a serious thread categorized off-topic

That's because I voluntarily started it under off topic. On chess.com, off topic by definition means non-chess related; however it's clearly ridiculous to say that anything that's not chess-related is not serious.

ajttja

since when was he pretending not to be a troll?

macer75

This is a serious question guys! Does anyone who has been around long enough to know what I'm talking about care to weigh in?

913Glorax12

Sometimes I think that the staff give us too much freedom with these forums....But then, I remember how much fun it is to read!

chessgdt
macer75 wrote:

This is a serious question guys! Does anyone who has been around long enough to know what I'm talking about care to weigh in?

Are you also going to compare the guy who made the parham thread, stating that it was the best opening and no one could refute it?

913Glorax12

Please don't start with that one again Frown

That one not only was a locked but also produced multiple other popular threads about the parham that were locked also

varelse1

Maybe Daeth is just a cooler name than..... whatever he's called. Can't remember.

913Glorax12

lol

I think it is Peter... no.. Peeta?..Parker??

Am I getting closer?

macer75
varelse1 wrote:

Maybe Daeth is just a cooler name than..... whatever he's called. Can't remember.

That might have been one of the contributing factors. Both Daeth's name and the name of the thread that he started were very... catchy. However, even though petermh5's name isn't as memorable, the title of his thread was also pretty catchy - it was simple and straightforward, yet something that don't normally say, and it encapsulated the main idea of his thread pretty well. The wording of the title was often discussed in the thread itself, which to a certain extent reflects its... catchiness, for lack of a better word.

chessgdt
913Glorax12 wrote:

Please don't start with that one again

That one not only was a locked but also produced multiple other popular threads about the parham that were locked also

True. But it still was a major thread that many considered to be a troll thread, with thousands(?) of posts.

macer75

Do you guys think it might have to do with how Daeth left chess.com in a dramatic way - by closing his account and thus having his thread deleted? And as a result, we were left with the feeling that the Daeth saga was still, in a way, unfinished, and we subconsciously immortalized him in our minds? Petermh5, on the other hand, just faded away. He kept his account, and, juding from his last online date, is still active, but (to my knowledge) never posted on the forums again.

chessgdt
macer75 wrote:

Do you guys think it might have to do with how Daeth left chess.com in a dramatic way - by closing his account and thus having his thread deleted? And as a result, we were left with the feeling that the Daeth saga was still, in a way, unfinished, and we subconsciously immortalized him in our minds? Petermh5, on the other hand, just faded away. He kept his account, and, juding from his last online date, is still active, but (to my knowledge) never posted on the forums again.

Peter is back on the forums http://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/best-quotout-of-nowherequot-player?lc=1#last_comment

macer75
chessgdt wrote:
macer75 wrote:

Do you guys think it might have to do with how Daeth left chess.com in a dramatic way - by closing his account and thus having his thread deleted? And as a result, we were left with the feeling that the Daeth saga was still, in a way, unfinished, and we subconsciously immortalized him in our minds? Petermh5, on the other hand, just faded away. He kept his account, and, juding from his last online date, is still active, but (to my knowledge) never posted on the forums again.

Peter is back on the forums http://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/best-quotout-of-nowherequot-player?lc=1#last_comment

Yes, I just noticed that too! I was gonna come here and tell everybody, but it seems that you noticed before me!

macer75

If his comment on that thread is indicative of the general kind of comments that he's gonna be making, we're in for a troll fest people!

macer75

O, nvm, I just noticed that the link isn't the one to the thread I was thinking about. Here's the thread I saw his posting on:

http://www.chess.com/forum/view/community/forums-like-mothes-to-a-flame

chessgdt

Well, now we know he might be back to his trolling ways XD

ajttja

because you were to busy saying your sheepy things.