Controversial Topic (Creation vs Evolution 2?)

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God is powerful enough, but he will not force any human to make a choice. The choice is up to you.

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checkmatemark04 wrote:

God is powerful enough, but he will not force any human to make a choice. The choice is up to you.

 If I show you a red pen, and that causes you to believe the red pen exists, did I force you to make a choice?  If I show you convincing evidence that Sacramento is the capital of California, and you in turn are convinced, did I force you to make a choice? No. So that explanation doesn’t fly. 

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USArmyParatrooper wrote:
checkmatemark04 wrote:

God is powerful enough, but he will not force any human to make a choice. The choice is up to you.

 If I show you a red pen, and that causes you to believe the red pen exists, did I force you to make a choice?  If I show you convincing evidence that Sacramento is the capital of California, and you in turn are convinced, did I force you to make a choice? No. So that explanation doesn’t fly. 

lol that is such a bad analogy

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checkmatemark04 wrote:

If people will open their eyes, God has put proof all around us. You yourself is proof of an intelligent Creator. But people have shut their eyes from seeing and their ears from hearing the truth.

 Do you agree or disagree that well-intentioned people can genuinely search for the truth, and still remain unconvinced that a god exists? 

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jaredjm wrote:
USArmyParatrooper wrote:
checkmatemark04 wrote:

God is powerful enough, but he will not force any human to make a choice. The choice is up to you.

 If I show you a red pen, and that causes you to believe the red pen exists, did I force you to make a choice?  If I show you convincing evidence that Sacramento is the capital of California, and you in turn are convinced, did I force you to make a choice? No. So that explanation doesn’t fly. 

lol that is such a bad analogy

 So bad in fact that you were unable to explain HOW it is a bad analogy?

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checkmatemark04 wrote:

God is powerful enough, but he will not force any human to make a choice. The choice is up to you.

I was waiting to say this.

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USArmyParatrooper wrote:
jaredjm wrote:
USArmyParatrooper wrote:
checkmatemark04 wrote:

God is powerful enough, but he will not force any human to make a choice. The choice is up to you.

 If I show you a red pen, and that causes you to believe the red pen exists, did I force you to make a choice?  If I show you convincing evidence that Sacramento is the capital of California, and you in turn are convinced, did I force you to make a choice? No. So that explanation doesn’t fly. 

lol that is such a bad analogy

 So bad in fact that you were unable to explain HOW it is a bad analogy?

It is bad simply cause, where did you go to school? 🙄 

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Ginarook wrote:

You do your best..don't you

I am done now, before I ruin my arguments with ad hominem like you did.

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HolographWars wrote:
USArmyParatrooper wrote:
jaredjm wrote:
USArmyParatrooper wrote:
checkmatemark04 wrote:

God is powerful enough, but he will not force any human to make a choice. The choice is up to you.

 If I show you a red pen, and that causes you to believe the red pen exists, did I force you to make a choice?  If I show you convincing evidence that Sacramento is the capital of California, and you in turn are convinced, did I force you to make a choice? No. So that explanation doesn’t fly. 

lol that is such a bad analogy

 So bad in fact that you were unable to explain HOW it is a bad analogy?

It is bad simply cause, where did you go to school? 🙄 

Don’t worry, I’m sure nobody’s going to notice that you completely evaded question and instead personalized the conversation. Must be those superior Christian values.
 
In what way is it a bad analogy?
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HolographWars wrote:
Ginarook wrote:

You do your best..don't you

I am done now, before I ruin my arguments with ad hominem like you did.

 My irony meter just exploded, Mr. “where did you go to school?“

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Killing to make a better world is justified because to make an omelette, you have to break a few eggs.

Is there something wrong there? I  linking two analogues together with an analogy.

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USArmyParatrooper escribió:
HolographWars wrote:

Have you all set on agreement that God is not evil, or do you disobey Einstein?

Einstein did NOT believe in a personal god. And if he did, YES, I would disagree with Einstein.

He believed in Espinoza's God.

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USArmyParatrooper wrote:
HolographWars wrote:
Ginarook wrote:

You do your best..don't you

I am done now, before I ruin my arguments with ad hominem like you did.

 My irony meter just exploded, Mr. “where did you go to school?“

That is not as hominem. It is questioning your base intelligence. It’s lije saying, “We shouldn’t trust Sam, as he has been known to lie a lot.”

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USArmyParatrooper wrote:
HolographWars wrote:
USArmyParatrooper wrote:
jaredjm wrote:
USArmyParatrooper wrote:
checkmatemark04 wrote:

God is powerful enough, but he will not force any human to make a choice. The choice is up to you.

 If I show you a red pen, and that causes you to believe the red pen exists, did I force you to make a choice?  If I show you convincing evidence that Sacramento is the capital of California, and you in turn are convinced, did I force you to make a choice? No. So that explanation doesn’t fly. 

lol that is such a bad analogy

 So bad in fact that you were unable to explain HOW it is a bad analogy?

It is bad simply cause, where did you go to school? 🙄 

Don’t worry, I’m sure nobody’s going to notice that you completely evaded question and instead personalized the conversation. Must be those superior Christian values.
 
In what way is it a bad analogy?

 I’m growing a beard waiting for an answer. 

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Prometheus_Fuschs wrote:
USArmyParatrooper escribió:
HolographWars wrote:

Have you all set on agreement that God is not evil, or do you disobey Einstein?

Einstein did NOT believe in a personal god. And if he did, YES, I would disagree with Einstein.

He believed in Espinoza's God.

That’s it. (Unfollows) 

May God one day give you peace.

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checkmatemark04 escribió:

If people will open their eyes, God has put proof all around us. You yourself is proof of an intelligent Creator. But people have shut their eyes from seeing and their ears from hearing the truth.

 

Sorry bro, the "intelligent design" argument has been busted and has remained so for decades.

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1378 the relationships between the items given is too far.

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HolographWars escribió:
checkmatemark04 wrote:

God is powerful enough, but he will not force any human to make a choice. The choice is up to you.

I was waiting to say this.

Showing himself up is not forcing anybody and it'd be very good evidence he exists.

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Prometheus_Fuschs wrote:
checkmatemark04 escribió:

If people will open their eyes, God has put proof all around us. You yourself is proof of an intelligent Creator. But people have shut their eyes from seeing and their ears from hearing the truth.

 

 

Sorry bro, the "intelligent design" argument has been busted and has remained so for decades.

Who is this guy? What is his expertise?

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HolographWars wrote:
USArmyParatrooper wrote:
HolographWars wrote:
Ginarook wrote:

You do your best..don't you

I am done now, before I ruin my arguments with ad hominem like you did.

 My irony meter just exploded, Mr. “where did you go to school?“

That is not as hominem. It is questioning your base intelligence. It’s lije saying, “We shouldn’t trust Sam, as he has been known to lie a lot.”

So it’s not an ad hominem, it’s only you trying to discredit the person instead of refuting the argument. lol 🤦‍♂️ 

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