Covid-19 Discussion (moderated)
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It’s honestly scary how powerful it is. While it’s nowhere near the likes of malaria and such, the fact that so many mutations are created, and the fact that it spreads VERY easily is terrifying. I’m lucky I live in Aussie, the virus hasn’t really been causing too much trouble here, but one outbreak caused a THREE DAY LOCKDOWN. That’s how serious it is. Wear your masks, stay at home as much as possible during lockdowns, and just overall stay safe. One stupid mistake could land us right back where we started, but worse.
This NEVER happened with the flu or cold. This is a unprecedented threat that could very well mean that economies, homes and all in between will crash due to the spread. It’s terrifying man. The cold and flu never had this happen, so this argument makes no sense. These mutations do not seem natural, due to the sheer amount of mutations, but we will just have to wait and see.
Yeah, while the flu definitely mutates each year or so, it’s only something minor and nothing game changing. COVID is a whole different story. Only time will tell what will happen next. Hopefully a result that is favourable.
Apr 7, 2021
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#2124
Eric-2 wrote:
HaughtyBishop a écrit :
I wasn’t too impressed by COVID when I had it back in November, but I know some people it hospitalized. We need a balance of caution and autonomous courage, or else we’ll mess up a whole bunch of stuff to avoid being messed up by COVID-19. Especially economically.
Where I’m at, we do a pretty good job, and now that the vaccines are rolling out, a lot of people are getting it. If this isn’t the light at the end of the tunnel, I can only assume somebody wants to keep it dark.
Where I’m at, we do a pretty good job, and now that the vaccines are rolling out, a lot of people are getting it. If this isn’t the light at the end of the tunnel, I can only assume somebody wants to keep it dark.
Who?
I’m not speaking about J. Biden and immediate Co., but I think some people, extreme left, of the heavily socialist bent, may be attempting to take advantage of the situation to get more power to the Government. Or even taking advantage of the President himself
”Those who trade their freedoms for safety will deserve neither, and lose both.” -Ben Franklin.
This borders politics, however. I’m not especially partisan, but I know what I want, I think I know what we need, and I can see which individuals (not parties) give that. Ben’s quote is good to keep in your mind alongside your care for those affected by the pandemic.
HaughtyBishop wrote:
Eric-2 wrote:
HaughtyBishop a écrit :
I wasn’t too impressed by COVID when I had it back in November, but I know some people it hospitalized. We need a balance of caution and autonomous courage, or else we’ll mess up a whole bunch of stuff to avoid being messed up by COVID-19. Especially economically.
Where I’m at, we do a pretty good job, and now that the vaccines are rolling out, a lot of people are getting it. If this isn’t the light at the end of the tunnel, I can only assume somebody wants to keep it dark.
Where I’m at, we do a pretty good job, and now that the vaccines are rolling out, a lot of people are getting it. If this isn’t the light at the end of the tunnel, I can only assume somebody wants to keep it dark.
Who?
I’m not speaking about J. Biden and immediate Co., but I think some people, extreme left, of the heavily socialist bent, may be attempting to take advantage of the situation to get more power to the Government. Or even taking advantage of the President himself
”Those who trade their freedoms for safety will deserve neither, and lose both.” -Ben Franklin.
This borders politics, however. I’m not especially partisan, but I know what I want, I think I know what we need, and I can see which individuals (not parties) give that. Ben’s quote is good to keep in your mind alongside your care for those affected by the pandemic.
This is more than "bordering" politics 
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Franklin's actual quote, from a letter about taxation:
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Franklin/01-06-02-0107
Getting back on topic...
Yeah, I'm pretty sure Ben Franklin has nothing to do with our current dilemma. We have the world's greatest scientific & medical minds working on this pandemic. Coupled with the lab resources of 2 dozen medical facilities around the globe. We'll be fine without Ben.
Apr 7, 2021
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#2127
RonaldJosephCote wrote:
Yeah, I'm pretty sure Ben Franklin has nothing to do with our current dilemma. We have the world's greatest scientific & medical minds working on this pandemic. Coupled with the lab resources of 2 dozen medical facilities around the globe. We'll be fine without Ben.
Unless it's all about the Benjamin's (I jest, not a subscriber to conspiracy theories).
Apr 7, 2021
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#2128
I suppose it does go beyond bordering politics, but it doesn’t touch on the partisan chaos of Democrat vs Republican.
While Ben had no words regarding a deadly pandemic, I would say his quote (thank you for finding the non-paraphrase) holds truth. We want our authorities to protect our safety by regulating assault, murder, etc., at the expense of being able to do it ourselves. This is obviously a protection of freedom however, and not a restriction of freedom (freedom from being assaulted is freedom, not the “freedom” to assault someone else).
I’m talking about how the government can help us get through the pandemic safely by mandates, etc., but how we should watch how they could use their newfound powers for a nefarious purpose down the road. There is a balance, I’m sure.
After what point do we lose freedom instead of gain it.
There is also economic, emotional, and social damages that we risk incurring for the sake of avoiding COVID.
While Ben had no words regarding a deadly pandemic, I would say his quote (thank you for finding the non-paraphrase) holds truth. We want our authorities to protect our safety by regulating assault, murder, etc., at the expense of being able to do it ourselves. This is obviously a protection of freedom however, and not a restriction of freedom (freedom from being assaulted is freedom, not the “freedom” to assault someone else).
I’m talking about how the government can help us get through the pandemic safely by mandates, etc., but how we should watch how they could use their newfound powers for a nefarious purpose down the road. There is a balance, I’m sure.
After what point do we lose freedom instead of gain it.
There is also economic, emotional, and social damages that we risk incurring for the sake of avoiding COVID.
Your free to start your own thread on the social, economic, & emotional factors of this pandemic but for now, we are only concerned in THIS thread about the medical properties that we are confronted with. That's why it is best to post links in the effort to educate everyone reading this thread.
Apr 7, 2021
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#2131
Does anyone have a (reliable) statistic on how many COVID’s there are?
I tested positive back in November, along with my family and some friends, but I was tired for a couple days and had headaches and overwhelming thirst, I drank like 6 quarts of water daily during this time, then it went away and my energy started coming back. Is this a different strain, and if so, what kind is it?
Apr 7, 2021
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#2132
Six species of human coronaviruses are known, with one species subdivided into two different strains, making seven strains of human coronaviruses altogether. According to google.
Did you lose your sense of taste & smell during your drinking binge?
Apr 7, 2021
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#2134
I got my second Moderna vaccine at the end of March. No side effects either time, except for injection site soreness ... about the same as a flu shot.
btickler wrote:
The US passed 5,000 deaths today, putting the 9/11 death total firmly in the rearview mirror...
Lol I remember that
Dr Hazelnut is very positive if we're lucky this pandemic could go away like the Spanish flu did go away 100 years ago https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-will-the-coronavirus-evolve/
But already this evolved variant called Brazilian has infected 2 people down in Colorado. And we have talked about that already and we know it's very contagious, that's in part why the healthcare system is not able to cope in Brazil. It's because the virus has evolved. Maybe it took some Brazilian jiu-jitsu classes, who knows? But it's more virulent too https://kdvr.com/news/coronavirus/brazilian-covid-19-variant-found-in-colorado/
Apr 8, 2021
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#2137
Eric-2 wrote:
HaughtyBishop a écrit :
Eric-2 wrote:
HaughtyBishop a écrit :
I wasn’t too impressed by COVID when I had it back in November, but I know some people it hospitalized. We need a balance of caution and autonomous courage, or else we’ll mess up a whole bunch of stuff to avoid being messed up by COVID-19. Especially economically.
Where I’m at, we do a pretty good job, and now that the vaccines are rolling out, a lot of people are getting it. If this isn’t the light at the end of the tunnel, I can only assume somebody wants to keep it dark.
Where I’m at, we do a pretty good job, and now that the vaccines are rolling out, a lot of people are getting it. If this isn’t the light at the end of the tunnel, I can only assume somebody wants to keep it dark.
Who?
I’m not speaking about J. Biden and immediate Co., but I think some people, extreme left, of the heavily socialist bent, may be attempting to take advantage of the situation to get more power to the Government. Or even taking advantage of the President himself
”Those who trade their freedoms for safety will deserve neither, and lose both.” -Ben Franklin.
This borders politics, however. I’m not especially partisan, but I know what I want, I think I know what we need, and I can see which individuals (not parties) give that. Ben’s quote is good to keep in your mind alongside your care for those affected by the pandemic.
Heavily socialist.....lol.....i prefer them by far compare to your heavily right wing wild capitalist!
Um, I’m about 85% capitalist, 15% socialist and not that far right of center. Whatever I am politically, it is an affect of what I think is true, not my political preferences determining what I think is true. My position doesn’t invalidate my point.
As far as Covid goes, I’m saying I think it’s getting better worldwide, and that the loosening of restrictions with the distribution of the vaccine “should” be coming. Humans can overcome this hurdle as we have done in the past.
Apr 8, 2021
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#2139
True.
But as we deal with mutations, we’ll get better at dealing with (do masks work, social distancing, vaccines, etc? What is most effective?). Trump had his try, now Biden has his, so we are trying out different strategies and balances of safety and autonomy. Eventually, everything will stabilize, even if COVID never goes away, and it just becomes part of the picture.
We got this!