I have not read this article,...I'm posting it for the benefit of others. I can say that if you lived through the worst of it--2 yrs ago-- you go with what you KNOW, until you know differently. https://www.yahoo.com/news/face-masks-made-little-no-001748577.html
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Ghost_of_Ninja wrote:
You are still talking nonsense. The CDC knew at the beginning of the pandemic that Covid was .1 micron in size, and that masks were useless. They do not slow down the virus in the least.
The people in this thread who tried to point out that scientific fact that was known by our CDC at the onset, those people were ridiculed, blocked, and accused of spreading disinformation, when in reality they were right and those promoting masks were dead wrong.
What you call common sense, is complete nonsense to those who know better. Promoting surgical masks to stop a .1 micron particle, it is the pinnacle of disinformation.
hmmm...
masks have been proven to a lot better than useless. there is a plethora of information stating they reduce the spread of covid. so, why write this?
rhetorical question. of course, you know better...
i doubt you read the embedded link that was the study. from it:
"We are very uncertain on the effects of N95/P2 respirators compared with medical/surgical masks on the outcome of clinical respiratory illness"
"Physical measures to try to prevent respiratory viruses spreading between people include:
· washing hands often;
· not touching your eyes, nose, or mouth;
· sneezing or coughing into your elbow;
· wiping surfaces with disinfectant;
· wearing masks, eye protection, gloves, and protective gowns..."
try to stay away from the examiner. note how the last few paragraphs separate from the cochrane study and delve into their political slant. that's every article i've ever wasted time reading from them.
i could flood this post with dozens of studies that show masks were/are effective, but, of course, you know better.
masking is ridiculous
it dont do nothin
and i have asthma
so its hard to breath
COVID is over, but some still are skaerd
Hey, little kids, stop posting one liners with no content, or be blocked. Your call.
Ghost of Ninja, apparently you are unaware that 0.1 micron particles can be carried farther by being embedded in propelled droplets of liquid than making their own way airborne...I would think this was fairly obvious.
The airborne characteristics of the virus were understood better as time went on. Masks were a good measure, and are still a good measure in many circumstances. Move along with the confrontational posts. I don't really care if some guest on a Joe Rogan podcast got you all riled up about having to wear a mask.
Ghost_of_Ninja wrote:
Again, you are incorrect. .1 micron particles are carried further when they are free. Masks help stop a carrier from spewing virus contaminated particulate matter, but the free floating virus particles are still free to float around for hours in anything but a completely stagnant room. The current studies prove that the virus is airborne, and that masks did virtually nothing to slow the spread, which is what you’ve been ignoring in favor of your political science. You are the one spreading disinformation, and it’s been clear to many of us for a few years now.
Yes, I'm sure 
. Well, feel free to report back to "us" how your engagement here has fared. It's clear how I am the one with an agenda here. Lol.
Ghost_of_Ninja wrote:
You are a major source of disinformation, as is becoming abundantly clear. The more time goes on, the more your position is going to continue falling apart, because it is based in politics and not real science. Science was clear in 2008 (link provided) that masks do next to nothing when used outside of their intended purpose. Does it surprise you that current studies are reaching the exact same conclusion?
On the contrary, I allow people to post any reliable sources they wish. The reasoning for masks to protect others (because they knew it does not do that much for one's self) was explained perfectly adequately at the start of the pandemic by the CDC. The ongoing efforts to determine how the virus fared when left airborne were also out in the open, and modifications to recommended measures were adjusted all along the way. Revisionist history does not an argument make.
Now, do you have anything of substance to say?
Ghost_of_Ninja wrote:
… but they/we knew the answer at least in 2008. There was no speculation on the part of those who understand the science. It was ridiculous to those who know better, when it was spewed at the beginning of the pandemic. One side has had to constantly change their position as it falls apart, and the other is being proven right by science. Again, you and this thread are an example of disinformation, even though you claim no bias. This thread is evidence of your bias. Anyone can read it. As time goes on, I wonder if your disinformation campaign will make the news?
Feel free to point out all the misinformation I have posted or have left unchallenged here. Just make sure you can back it up. You're already teetering on the edge as it is. Posting garbage because you have a chip on your shoulder is not what this thread is for.
RonaldJosephCote wrote:
Ninja, ...what are you talking about in post 4323?...."Science was clear in 2008 (link provided) that masks do next to nothing when used outside of their intended purpose. To the best of my knowledge, the Covid pandemic started in 2018. And what's with the phrase....."outside their intended purpose"? Just because the CDC is altering the're position 4 yrs into the mutations of Covid....that doesn't make you right. I remember many of us telling Patriot Games that she may be wrong in saying the virus isn't airborne.
...speaking of sources of misinformation, that particular one is gone . It was 2019 though, thus Covid-19.
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Also from the NIH, a little more up to date than something cherry picked from 2008:
https://newsinhealth.nih.gov/2021/11/face-masks-covid-19
Ghost_of_Ninja wrote:
It’s not a stand alone (cherry picked) piece of information. Put it together with the current studies showing masks don’t prevent the spread of Covid. Studies showed masks don’t prevent the spread of infectious disease in 2008, and studies in 2023 showed the same results. I’d say that is significant.
Your particular brand of logic where you claim article X means Y and then run with it for everything else you build on top reminds me of ExploringWA. He used to make these same types of foundational errors and then double and triple down...
Covid alpha was bad but the newer strains are very mild and don’t require vaccines
Covid "alpha", almost sound like military term. Almost.
Fret not. The future bears many moe man-made horrors beyond our comprehension.
those that study these type of things predict you will be right, unfortunately.