That's not really relevant to this thread. Guns have been a problem for so long in the US. This doesn't have something to do with the corona crisis. Even without corona, US would have this problem.
Ermm, there's been far too many shootings in the US, but I don't recall a lot of you-didn't-hold-open-the-door-for-me-bang-you're-dead-level-of-callous-regard shootings 
. I do think the outbreak is a factor.
They ended up dead, because there were guns in the first place. Of course corona is one factor in that specific case, but the necessary condition for that to happen is the existence of guns. In other countries, this not an issue at all.
As you mentioned in your response, humans aren't always reasonable, having a gun only makes things worse and enables unecessary death and violence.
This topic is full of silliness.
Twitter, Yahoo and Facebook are supposed to be public forums open to all ideas, not publishers who only publish what THEY want to publish. They are not legally responsible for what users put on their websites. "Misinformation" is just a code word for "stuff Twitter, Yahoo and Facebook don't like". If they remove "misinformation" that is censorship, plain and simple. They can't act like publishers while having the protection of public forums. If you think that something you read is misinformation, then don't read it. It is your right to do so.
Having a gun does not make you violent, and violent people will still kill without guns. In the UK where I am from, stabbings are a big issue. All that banning guns (or knives) does is stop good people from being able to defend themselves while letting criminals and police have access to them. Banning something does not get rid of it.
If you think that all of humanity will revert to caveman behaviour in days because of a blackout that lasts longer than one night, you clearly have no faith in yourself, your family or most good people, which is pathetic. London had blackouts in the Second World War that lasted for years, yet it survived intact. Most people don't riot or loot. You only think that because you see a small group doing so on the news or in a film, then assign those characteristics to everyone, which is a fallacy of composition.
This topic is full of silliness.
Twitter, Yahoo and Facebook are supposed to be public forums open to all ideas, not publishers who only publish what THEY want to publish. They are not legally responsible for what users put on their websites. "Misinformation" is just a code word for "stuff Twitter, Yahoo and Facebook don't like". If they remove "misinformation" that is censorship, plain and simple. They can't act like publishers while having the protection of public forums. If you think that something you read is misinformation, then don't read it. It is your right to do so.
Having a gun does not make you violent, and violent people will still kill without guns. In the UK where I am from, stabbings are a big issue. All that banning guns (or knives) does is stop good people from being able to defend themselves while letting criminals and police have access to them. Banning something does not get rid of it.
If you think that all of humanity will revert to caveman behaviour in days because of a blackout that lasts longer than one night, you clearly have no faith in yourself, your family or most good people, which is pathetic. London had blackouts in the Second World War that lasted for years, yet it survived intact. Most people don't riot or loot. You only think that because you see a small group doing so on the news or in a film, then assign those characteristics to everyone, which is a fallacy of composition.
- Twitter, Facebook, and Yahoo are not publishers, they do not create or directly hire people to create their content. They are merely platforms for communication and aggregators of content (Yahoo excepted, but their created content is orders of magnitude less than their facilitation of other's content, so still not really a publisher).
- Yes, we all know about London's stiff upper lip during the big WWII. The difference is how people react to an external threat with visible authorities warning people and telling then how to respond, ala England in WWII, vs. a completely unknown loss of power and communications without any information. I find it funny if you're in England and yet can't see this as a possibility at all, while people are burning down cell phone towers for no reason other than fear and hearsay ...
- Do you mean that this particular subthread/subtopic is full of silliness? Because it's quite short to be called "full of" anything, so I'm guessing you may have meant this entire thread is full of silliness...but it couldn't be that, because that would be assigning 60 pages of posts the characteristics of the last page, which as you know would be a fallacy of composition.
Have you ever read Nightfall? It's a very interesting sci-fi story about a solar system with 6 suns, and what happens to the enlightened and peaceful society there every 2,000 years when all 6 suns are in such an alignment that the planet's inhabitants can actually see the night sky they have never seen before.
Reported crime rose in the UK by an estimated 57% during the blackout period 1939-1945. These stats are obviously difficult to verify but if reported crimes rose then it can be certain that unreported crime also rose. Not surprising really, rationing was in place and people were lacking in the basics. The most notorious crime spree of this period was undertaken by the 'acid bath murderer' John Haigh.
1. That's exactly what I said - they are not publishers. They are public forums. You are agreeing with me. I said that they are ACTING like publishers while being public forums.
2. OK, so the London blackouts was a bad example. But where is your evidence for your doomsday scenario where everyone goes rogue when an "unknown" thing happens? Society has been functional for thousands of years, but some people seem to think that society is always one step away from a fictional dystopia for some reason. Film and video game dystopias do not reflect reality.
3. You make a good point. I know that three comments is not representative of the entire thread, but I'm not going to read all 60 pages of it am I? 
"Full of silliness" was just a throwaway phrase I came up with. I didn't mean that every single comment of this thread is silly.
@Gamificast
"Having a gun does not make you violent, and violent people will still kill without guns. In the UK where I am from, stabbings are a big issue. "
The amount of victims through gun violence are huge and can't be compared to the number of crimes in the UK.
You're right that that guns aren't the reason for violence. However the presence of guns makes things worse and is more likely to cause death, this should be avoided. Countries like Germany, Netherlands etc. don't have this problem.
Additonally these countries don't treat the people in prisons like animals and try to prepare them for a life outside of prison as a valuable member of society.
In the US however they are more likely to fall back to their criminal behavior. If you give these people a gun you could imagine what will happen.
Other countries are doing fine without guns, why shouldn't work in the US?
@Gamificast
I did quote and reply to your post, but I got a red banner and (not supposed to happen) an auto-mute simultaneously when I tried to post the reply (which was innocuous, as was your post). So, I lost the reply, and I'm not going to risk quoting and typing a new one .
@Gamificast
I did quote and reply to your post, but I got a red banner and (not supposed to happen) an auto-mute simultaneously when I tried to post the reply (which was innocuous, as was your post). So, I lost the reply, and I'm not going to risk quoting and typing a new one .
Hm, thanks for the clue as to why you got auto muted. Not sure why, but it looks like quoting Gamificast's post 1195 is apparently an automatic mute (scary stuff -.-).
I would chalk it up to a glitch/problem with the filter...clearly nothing is written in the post that would seem to be filter-worthy. Though when I saw Pizza_Funghi saying "@Gamificast" I wondered if he also got a banner or anything...
Things are becoming worse here in South America. Ecuador, Peru, Brazil, Chile have seen how the number of cases and deaths is growing. They are already living a scenario like Europe one month ago, and like USA. The difference is that our health care systems are much worse. Fortunately, my country, Uruguay, has been able so far to flat the spread, with less than 10 new cases every day and 19 deaths. However, the country is opening schools, shopping centers and other bussinesses soon, so the future is uncertain.
I believe in self defence. Do you? Britain is not "doing fine" without guns. Guns save more lives than they take. Not all gun deaths are "gun violence". Self defence is not violence. Owning a gun does not mean that you will ever fire it - just pointing a gun at someone is all it takes to dissuade most people from committing a crime. It's not "the presence of guns" that makes things worse, it's when criminals have them and law abiding citizens don't. Like in the UK.
I agree with you on prisons - people should not be treated like animals. As you rightly said, the purpose of prison is supposed to be to reintegrate people into society. I should point out that a lot of people are in jail for victimless crimes, though, and shouldn't be in prison to begin with.
I don't know what the healthcare is like in other countries, but the NHS is terrible. I feel sorry for the people who have to work for it.
If chess.com is muting you for quoting my opinion, then that really is scary. It should not censor you for trying to have a civil discussion with me in the off-topic message boards.
I believe in self defence. Do you? Britain is not "doing fine" without guns. Guns save more lives than they take. Not all gun deaths are "gun violence". Self defence is not violence. Owning a gun does not mean that you will ever fire it - just pointing a gun at someone is all it takes to dissuade most people from committing a crime. It's not "the presence of guns" that makes things worse, it's when criminals have them and law abiding citizens don't. Like in the UK.
I agree with you on prisons - people should not be treated like animals. As you rightly said, the purpose of prison is supposed to be to reintegrate people into society. I should point out that a lot of people are in jail for victimless crimes, though, and shouldn't be in prison to begin with.
I don't know what the healthcare is like in other countries, but the NHS is terrible. I feel sorry for the people who have to work for it.
If chess.com is muting you for quoting my opinion, then that really is scary. It should not censor you for trying to have a civil discussion with me in the off-topic message boards.
I am sure it was just a case where some unfortunate juxtaposition of words lead to a "false positive" for the filter. I am guessing the filters remove all whitespace, etc. They are trying to detect attempts to get around the filter, like "f * * k", so just saying something like "In Bangladesh, it heads in another direction" or "you just have to let go, okay?" while forgetting the commas might get you in trouble.
I don't see anything like that in your post or in the reply I tried to post, but there's a lot of filtered words and it can get pretty hard to find. I could try to post stuff paragraph by paragraph, then sentence by sentence, but I'd need a mod partner ready to unmute me again ...so, not sure it would be worth it.
False positives for forum filters.? 
Nothing is simple anymore...
We're at 1.5M cases in the US now :/...
Here's an interesting perspective.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/15/world/coronavirus-women-leaders.html
Best links for up-to-date Covid-19 outbreak numbers:
Worldometer's Coronavirus page:
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
John Hopkins University - Coronavirus Outbreak Map
Here are some dashboards:
https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/03/06/905436/best-worst-coronavirus-dashboards/
covid-19 in my car
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldg25c6qGn8
I don´t want to restart the discussion about guns in America, as we have been warned against it, but I want to focus instead on people madness and evil. A poor security guard killed only because he asked people to wear face masks to enter to a store. What is happening to humanity?
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/05/04/us/michigan-security-guard-mask-killing-trnd/index.html
It's a lie that we tell ourselves that man has evolved above the animals...all it takes is a blackout (electric and/or communications) that lasts longer than one night and humanity starts reverting to caveman behavior in a matter of days. Society is a much more fragile construct than we realize. One overly large solar flare that knocks out electrical grids worldwide that can't be fixed for a week or two and we are done...mass starvation, rioting and looting, etc.
The outbreak just makes it worse, because now you have the shelter in place along with a fundamental fear of the unknown and unseen, but that fear is targeted at other people.