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ExploringWA wrote:
By the end of December, factoring in the current active infections of over 7 million, with 3,000+ new cases per day, the number of Covid deaths in the U.S. will have surpassed the death toll from the 1918 Spanish flu.
There are a lot more humans on this planet than in the past so of course the statistics will be much higher....
ExploringWA wrote:
By the end of December, factoring in the current active infections of over 7 million, with 3,000+ new cases per day, the number of Covid deaths in the U.S. will have surpassed the death toll from the 1918 Spanish flu.
That depends on how they are counted. Yesterday in our state we had 21 new deaths. 13, or about 2/3, were over the age of 80. That's a similar pattern that's been repeated all year. A friend of mines mother in law died two weeks ago. He was just livid because they called it a covid death. I knew her, and it's truly a miracle she lived this long. Her days were numbered many years ago and even though she died of something else BECAUSE she also had covid, it's called a covid death. It's probably similar to elections. It's not who votes, or how many people vote. It's who counts the votes that matters.
Dec 18, 2020
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lfPatriotGames wrote:
ExploringWA wrote:
By the end of December, factoring in the current active infections of over 7 million, with 3,000+ new cases per day, the number of Covid deaths in the U.S. will have surpassed the death toll from the 1918 Spanish flu.
That depends on how they are counted. Yesterday in our state we had 21 new deaths. 13, or about 2/3, were over the age of 80. That's a similar pattern that's been repeated all year. A friend of mines mother in law died two weeks ago. He was just livid because they called it a covid death. I knew her, and it's truly a miracle she lived this long. Her days were numbered many years ago and even though she died of something else BECAUSE she also had covid, it's called a covid death. It's probably similar to elections. It's not who votes, or how many people vote. It's who counts the votes that matters.
Now we’ve come full circle to your explanation for excess deaths, that are reported from sources outside of U.S. politics. No government is capable of covering up 350,000 deaths. Do you realize the number of co-conspirators it would take to pull off a scam that large? 350,000 more people have died in the March to December timeframe, than in any other year over the past 100 years, and your explanation seems to be that “they eventually would have died anyway?” What is your explanation for the excess death count?
frankooo wrote:
ExploringWA wrote:
By the end of December, factoring in the current active infections of over 7 million, with 3,000+ new cases per day, the number of Covid deaths in the U.S. will have surpassed the death toll from the 1918 Spanish flu.
There are a lot more humans on this planet than in the past so of course the statistics will be much higher....
We have 100 years of medical advances since then...?
ExploringWA wrote:
lfPatriotGames wrote:
ExploringWA wrote:
By the end of December, factoring in the current active infections of over 7 million, with 3,000+ new cases per day, the number of Covid deaths in the U.S. will have surpassed the death toll from the 1918 Spanish flu.
That depends on how they are counted. Yesterday in our state we had 21 new deaths. 13, or about 2/3, were over the age of 80. That's a similar pattern that's been repeated all year. A friend of mines mother in law died two weeks ago. He was just livid because they called it a covid death. I knew her, and it's truly a miracle she lived this long. Her days were numbered many years ago and even though she died of something else BECAUSE she also had covid, it's called a covid death. It's probably similar to elections. It's not who votes, or how many people vote. It's who counts the votes that matters.
Now we’ve come full circle to your explanation for excess deaths, that are reported from sources outside of U.S. politics. No government is capable of covering up 350,000 deaths. Do you realize the number of co-conspirators it would take to pull off a scam that large? 350,000 more people have died in the March to December timeframe, than in any other year over the past 100 years, and your explanation seems to be that “they eventually would have died anyway?” What is your explanation for the excess death count?
I didn't say there were excess deaths. I said they are reported differently, state by state. And even country by country. Some countries call them covid deaths, others name the actual cause of death. I don't doubt deaths are up this year, and not just from the covid either. But I do doubt they are all caused from covid. Some categories of death have even gone down. Like someone else said, nobody ever dies of stroke anymore.
Dec 18, 2020
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#1649
lfPatriotGames wrote:
ExploringWA wrote:
lfPatriotGames wrote:
ExploringWA wrote:
By the end of December, factoring in the current active infections of over 7 million, with 3,000+ new cases per day, the number of Covid deaths in the U.S. will have surpassed the death toll from the 1918 Spanish flu.
That depends on how they are counted. Yesterday in our state we had 21 new deaths. 13, or about 2/3, were over the age of 80. That's a similar pattern that's been repeated all year. A friend of mines mother in law died two weeks ago. He was just livid because they called it a covid death. I knew her, and it's truly a miracle she lived this long. Her days were numbered many years ago and even though she died of something else BECAUSE she also had covid, it's called a covid death. It's probably similar to elections. It's not who votes, or how many people vote. It's who counts the votes that matters.
Now we’ve come full circle to your explanation for excess deaths, that are reported from sources outside of U.S. politics. No government is capable of covering up 350,000 deaths. Do you realize the number of co-conspirators it would take to pull off a scam that large? 350,000 more people have died in the March to December timeframe, than in any other year over the past 100 years, and your explanation seems to be that “they eventually would have died anyway?” What is your explanation for the excess death count?
I didn't say there were excess deaths. I said they are reported differently, state by state. And even country by country. Some countries call them covid deaths, others name the actual cause of death. I don't doubt deaths are up this year, and not just from the covid either. But I do doubt they are all caused from covid. Some categories of death have even gone down. Like someone else said, nobody ever dies of stroke anymore.
So you believe it is a conspiracy? People die of strokes every day. The statistic is easy to find for those willing to look. I’d go so far as to say stroke deaths have increased during Covid, as cardiovascular deaths have increased. The excess death rate is running about 20% higher than the Covid death count, and that is explained by addition stroke deaths, heat attacks, drug overdose, suicide, and a litany of other causes that are Covid stress related.
No, it's not a conspiracy in any way. In our state they openly admit that all deaths were someone has covid is counted as a covid death. Regardless of the cause of death. The 2018 flu year had about 35,000 deaths. Many more depending on who you ask. Now, what if deaths were not just counted as people who die of the flu, but everyone who dies but also had the flu? Roughly 35 million people had the flu that year. It's not a conspiracy, it would just be nice if they counted them the same way.
btickler wrote:
frankooo wrote:
ExploringWA wrote:
By the end of December, factoring in the current active infections of over 7 million, with 3,000+ new cases per day, the number of Covid deaths in the U.S. will have surpassed the death toll from the 1918 Spanish flu.
There are a lot more humans on this planet than in the past so of course the statistics will be much higher....
We have 100 years of medical advances since then...?
Yes but medical advances can only go so far as viruses can mutate to resistance forms over time rendering vaccines useless to eliminate them....
Dec 18, 2020
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#1652
lfPatriotGames wrote:
No, it's not a conspiracy in any way. In our state they openly admit that all deaths were someone has covid is counted as a covid death. Regardless of the cause of death. The 2018 flu year had about 35,000 deaths. Many more depending on who you ask. Now, what if deaths were not just counted as people who die of the flu, but everyone who dies but also had the flu? Roughly 35 million people had the flu that year. It's not a conspiracy, it would just be nice if they counted them the same way.
You still don’t account for the spike in deaths. There is a spike in deaths of nearly 500,000 over previous years. Are you saying that you believe those should be labeled differently? Is your argument Symantec? Do you deny the death count? If you truly believe the majority of excess deaths are due to our government locking down the people, then you are stating that our government is committing genocide against our own population. These deaths would then be casualties of war, and we should be taking up arms. Is this what you believe?
frankooo wrote:
btickler wrote:
frankooo wrote:
ExploringWA wrote:
By the end of December, factoring in the current active infections of over 7 million, with 3,000+ new cases per day, the number of Covid deaths in the U.S. will have surpassed the death toll from the 1918 Spanish flu.
There are a lot more humans on this planet than in the past so of course the statistics will be much higher....
We have 100 years of medical advances since then...?
Yes but medical advances can only go so far as viruses can mutate to resistance forms over time rendering vaccines useless to eliminate them....
Your post implied that the totals between the two pandemics would only be different because of increased world population and no other factors. This is not the case 
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ExploringWA wrote:
lfPatriotGames wrote:
No, it's not a conspiracy in any way. In our state they openly admit that all deaths were someone has covid is counted as a covid death. Regardless of the cause of death. The 2018 flu year had about 35,000 deaths. Many more depending on who you ask. Now, what if deaths were not just counted as people who die of the flu, but everyone who dies but also had the flu? Roughly 35 million people had the flu that year. It's not a conspiracy, it would just be nice if they counted them the same way.
You still don’t account for the spike in deaths. There is a spike in deaths of nearly 500,000 over previous years. Are you saying that you believe those should be labeled differently? Is your argument Symantec? Do you deny the death count? If you truly believe the majority of excess deaths are due to our government locking down the people, then you are stating that our government is committing genocide against our own population. These deaths would then be casualties of war, and we should be taking up arms. Is this what you believe?
I haven't seen any spike in overall deaths. But if there is, maybe it's from what you say. Maybe it's from suicide, stress related heart attacks, drug overdose, etc. Could also be delayed effects from hospitals shut down. Probably not a good idea to put off hospital visits. The fact most covid related deaths are in old people is interesting, since that is the category that is most likely to need regular medical visits. Also the category that is (was) most likely to delay going to the hospitals when they were shut limiting visits.
Dec 18, 2020
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#1655
lfPatriotGames wrote:
ExploringWA wrote:
lfPatriotGames wrote:
No, it's not a conspiracy in any way. In our state they openly admit that all deaths were someone has covid is counted as a covid death. Regardless of the cause of death. The 2018 flu year had about 35,000 deaths. Many more depending on who you ask. Now, what if deaths were not just counted as people who die of the flu, but everyone who dies but also had the flu? Roughly 35 million people had the flu that year. It's not a conspiracy, it would just be nice if they counted them the same way.
You still don’t account for the spike in deaths. There is a spike in deaths of nearly 500,000 over previous years. Are you saying that you believe those should be labeled differently? Is your argument Symantec? Do you deny the death count? If you truly believe the majority of excess deaths are due to our government locking down the people, then you are stating that our government is committing genocide against our own population. These deaths would then be casualties of war, and we should be taking up arms. Is this what you believe?
I haven't seen any spike in overall deaths. But if there is, maybe it's from what you say. Maybe it's from suicide, stress related heart attacks, drug overdose, etc. Could also be delayed effects from hospitals shut down. Probably not a good idea to put off hospital visits. The fact most covid related deaths are in old people is interesting, since that is the category that is most likely to need regular medical visits. Also the category that is (was) most likely to delay going to the hospitals when they were shut limiting visits.
Type “Covid excess death chart” into Google. Pick a chart from any and every country. They all agree. There is a global spike in deaths that exceeds the claimed Covid death count.
1st off, some people here have no idea whatsoever about how the votes are counted! Pity
2nd, the person dying (having Covid) is counted as Covid death as this has accelerated the death, which otherwise would not have resulted in death.
It is really that hard to understand such basic things?
frankooo wrote:
ExploringWA wrote:
By the end of December, factoring in the current active infections of over 7 million, with 3,000+ new cases per day, the number of Covid deaths in the U.S. will have surpassed the death toll from the 1918 Spanish flu.
There are a lot more humans on this planet than in the past so of course the statistics will be much higher....
Humans have gained much more knowledge and advancements in science, which has made us understand things much better now than during the Spanish flu. Also we know how to avoid the spread and could safeguard us from this! Only we need to follow it
Dec 18, 2020
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#1658
lfPatriotGames wrote:
ExploringWA wrote:
lfPatriotGames wrote:
No, it's not a conspiracy in any way. In our state they openly admit that all deaths were someone has covid is counted as a covid death. Regardless of the cause of death. The 2018 flu year had about 35,000 deaths. Many more depending on who you ask. Now, what if deaths were not just counted as people who die of the flu, but everyone who dies but also had the flu? Roughly 35 million people had the flu that year. It's not a conspiracy, it would just be nice if they counted them the same way.
You still don’t account for the spike in deaths. There is a spike in deaths of nearly 500,000 over previous years. Are you saying that you believe those should be labeled differently? Is your argument Symantec? Do you deny the death count? If you truly believe the majority of excess deaths are due to our government locking down the people, then you are stating that our government is committing genocide against our own population. These deaths would then be casualties of war, and we should be taking up arms. Is this what you believe?
I haven't seen any spike in overall deaths. But if there is, maybe it's from what you say. Maybe it's from suicide, stress related heart attacks, drug overdose, etc. Could also be delayed effects from hospitals shut down. Probably not a good idea to put off hospital visits. The fact most covid related deaths are in old people is interesting, since that is the category that is most likely to need regular medical visits. Also the category that is (was) most likely to delay going to the hospitals when they were shut limiting visits.
Just wondering what is meant by "death rate"? The official numbers will not be available for 2020 until January 2021 because the year is not over. However, the projected data I looked at shows the annual chance of death for an individual at 1.12% for both 2019 and 2020, and the death rate per thousand slightly higher for 2020 but not much. https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/death-rate
Dec 18, 2020
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#1659
The death rate is calculated by dividing the total deaths attributed to Covid, by the confirmed number of cases.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
Dec 18, 2020
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#1660
btickler wrote:
hoodoothere wrote:
lfPatriotGames wrote:
Abhinav0121 wrote:
ericthatwho wrote:
Just think the covid vaccine is dead covid cells (?) So get vaccinated and get covid
The vaccines currently being developed by Pfizer and Moderna use a new vaccine formula with Messenger RNA (mRNA) to introduce immunity in the human body.
They are not like the traditional vaccines for flu which use partially dead organisms to induce immunity.
How very, very interesting. I just might wait a little longer than 2 years.
Yeah, read up more on the vaccine, and this is the first one that is based on messenger RNA (mRNA). Plus there is a rumor?...that Bill Gates funds Moderna and that Moderna never developed a vaccine at all before? They are named after mRNA, and only formed in 2010. I saw something on Facebook by a Molecular Biologist, that seems to have been quickly removed, don't see it anymore. He was warning that mRNA has the potential to permanently alter human DNA. If that is true, for what purpose? Maybe make us more passive? dumb us down? Who knows?
Please just stop with the stupid Bill Gates theories. If he wanted to alter human DNA, he could do it...without any vaccine. *So could you*. It's called CRISPR, and there's no laws about it yet, you can buy it on the Internet. Hobbyists are already trying to create glow in the dark dogs, etc. by mixing DNA from various species. I'm actually surprised that conspiracy theorists have been too ignorant and behind in technology to even pick up on CRISPR, given that even Netflix has done a documentary on the dangers of it being unregulated currently.
Anyone on the planet can introduce CRISPR RNA into any water supply they can get access to and alter DNA for every living thing drinking that water. It can be made airborne. Worse, CRISPR can be made recursive, in the sense that CRISPR can contain itself and ergo replicate itself, and can thus spread worldwide indirectly from the initial source(s). When it splices itself into someone's DNA, that splice it can contain another copy of CRISPR.
So, why bother creating or piggybacking on a pandemic? Needlessly complicated and prone to discovery. You can buy a CRISPR kit for $65 plus shipping. It doesn't take a Bill Gates or a worldwide virus to pull that off. You can bet threats are coming in this arena, but it will be groups of radicals with cheap CRISPR kits making it happen, not the man who wants to build a better toilet for humanity.
Conspiracy theorists really need to apply to Occam's Razor. It kills 80% of their theories out of the gate (or Gates).
Any decent molecular biologist knows about CRISPR already and hopefully realizes that using a vaccine to deliver any gene-altering agent doesn't really make sense given how easily it could be done without going to all that trouble.
I don't do conspiracy theories, I only deal in facts. My understanding is that mRNA will die quickly after produced and has to be chilled. Dumping it in a reservoir is a waste of time because it will die/become impotent or whatever you prefer quickly. Will be either eaten by a microbe or expire over a short period of time. Even if viable the dilution factors are astronomical when something is dumped in a reservoir. Also before the water is delivered to you house it is Chlorinated. Not going to work, no way, no how. Delivering it directly into a human body is another matter. Maybe in a water cooler or something, but exposure would be limited. You really need to inject it and for that it takes a willing subject; well most of the time unless you are a spy or something. All this assumes that you have bio-engineering experience and know what the target gene does. It is currently unknown what most of the genes do but it is being worked on and someday we may actually know what most or all do.
Instead of just following like a herd