Does True Randomness Actually Exist?

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BoardMonkey
noodles2112 wrote:

please i implore you to type in english.

lütfen ingilizce yazmanızı rica ediyorum.

noodles2112

not if i matterwink.png

DiogenesDue
noodles2112 wrote:

not if i matter

All posters matter.

*here comes a political debate*

noodles2112

use it or lose it. american saying i think. ?

my posts in the pasts have been attacked relentlessly. then i get banished wink.png

noodles2112

some things do not translate very well. it's random....or randomness is in the eye/mind of the beholderwink.png

timben

That would be random

noodles2112

here is random. take a bunch of glass/metal parts and blow them up and see if a Piaget is createdwink.png

DrSpudnik

I think randomness is being posited generally here as the opposite of predetermination. Though the opposite of predetermination is free will and the opposite of randomness is order/predictability.

noodles2112

if one says to themselves that they have no freewill............. then they gave it up.

noodles2112

freewill has a price. therefore its not free.

Elroch

Only if you pay me to take it away.

noodles2112

Opt blocked me. why i can only randomly guess! ?

noodles2112

Elite - what comes around goes around.

but then again why do bad things happen to good people?

they don't. a matter of perspective.

saygrrmanytimes

I do not believe that true randomness exists 😄

USArmyParatrooper
noodles2112 wrote:

Does not Las Vegas thrive and survive on the principle of a variable ratio?

Especially when it comes to slot machines.

However, the "random rules" are created for the house....hence.....the house ALWAYS wins in the end.

Vegas only operates on perceived randomness, what is referred to as “random.” It just means we lack the ability to predict the outcome. When you throw dice at a craps table, the outcome is predicted by physics, even if no one around the table can know the variables, or even how to use the variables to predict the outcome.

DiogenesDue
Optimissed wrote:

I asked you not to spam that thread I started. You seemed to kill it with the nonsense you were talking. You said "no" and then you made a confrontational remark of some kind. I had asked you politely and in a friendly way. Your fault wouldn't you say?

Oh the irony.

USArmyParatrooper
Optimissed wrote:
USArmyParatrooper wrote:
noodles2112 wrote:

Does not Las Vegas thrive and survive on the principle of a variable ratio?

Especially when it comes to slot machines.

However, the "random rules" are created for the house....hence.....the house ALWAYS wins in the end.

Vegas only operates on perceived randomness, what is referred to as “random.” It just means we lack the ability to predict the outcome. When you throw dice at a craps table, the outcome is predicted by physics, even if no one around the table can know the variables, or even how to use the variables to predict the outcome.

If you can't predict it and that's impossible, it's random.

When humans lacked the ability to predict the trajectory of incoming asteroids, was their path random or was it still determined by physics?

noodles2112

what has trust got to do with anything Opt?

who do you trust? Tv/MSM/Gov't?

USArmyParatrooper
shangtsung111 wrote:

i think we should clasify the term randomness into two, to prevent confusion

1st degree (objectively): related to free will and possibility of experiments giving different results under same circumstances

2nd degree (subjectively):related to certain results already existing but very difficult (to impossible) by observer,guesser to calculate.so being random to that individual.

I don’t know how it’s even possible to distinguish between true randomness and unknown causality. Like, how can you definitively determine that there is no unknown cause?

noodles2112

okay here is another concept.

when a male/female copulate is it random conception?

that is, millions of male sperm head for the female egg.

which one wins?

not always the strongest. if so, that would be deterministic.