Does True Randomness Actually Exist?

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…Noodles, you can’t be saying gravity’s a fake, right?

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His reasoning seems to boil down to "it's wrong BECAUSE the experts/authority/mainstream think it's right, and I hate/feel threatened/inadequate by them". You see the same reasoning in the global cooling thread

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I am no better than anyone else -

I just question things (especially when there is more than one explanation) that others do not want to question - for whatever reason(s).

I never really questioned heliocentrism or Nasa & many other things until around 2012 -

challenging ones own "worldview/core beliefs" is not an easy nor pleasant endeavor - Cognitive Dissonance typically wins out !

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"Gravity" - the All Powerful yet Paradoxically Powerless invisible force that holds/binds everything together & nothing at all.

Even scientists avoid "gravity" due to its paradoxical "nature"!

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Where is the "global cooling" thread OTEH18 ?

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noodles2112 wrote:

"Gravity" - the All Powerful yet Paradoxically Powerless invisible force that holds/binds everything together & nothing at all.

Even scientists avoid "gravity" due to its paradoxical "nature"!

Gravity isn’t powerless. And scientists do not avoid gravity. They can’t, and nobody can.

And how does you propose to explain the descent of objects after being tossed upwards?

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noodles2112 wrote:

Where is the "global cooling" thread OTEH18 ?

Put “global cooling” in the search bar. You can’t miss it.

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not going to get into "gravity" discussion - suffice it to say the natural & physical laws of density & buoyancy have scientifically explained why things ascend/descend/float/sink - long before Newtons theory of gravity came along.

The theory was required to explain why things, people , water etc. would stick to a spinning ball.

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Scientists are very open about the fact that gravity is difficult to explain the /why/ behind how it happens, if you're talking about forces. Scientists in general are very open about where their limits of understanding exist. Gravity is a force that can be clearly observed both firsthand and by calculations that confirm its existence. Noodles, you are too dumb to understand where the limit of understanding occurs so you needlessly put into doubt things where there is no reason to.

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noodles2112 wrote:

not going to get into "gravity" discussion - suffice it to say the natural & physical laws of density & buoyancy have scientifically explained why things ascend/descend/float/sink - long before Newtons theory of gravity came along.

The theory was required to explain why things, people , water etc. would stick to a spinning ball.

So, you dispute Newton’s theory of gravity?

And no, I wouldn’t fall down after I jumped if there was no gravity, assuming I exist at all (which I won’t). An object doesn’t move until a force is applied to it. There’s no reason I’d sink in air if there was nothing to pull me down. And there’s no reason I’d sink towards the ground.

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Oh my god how tf do you think buoyancy works?! You think buoyancy works on the international space station? Lol!

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how do rain clouds that weigh tons hover above the earth -

or a 200 ton airship hover above the earth -

helium - hydrogen defies "gravity" ?

or a balloon half air/helium "levitating" neutrally buoyant neither ascending nor descending - where is "gravity"?

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"outer space adventures" - can be fun OTEH18 - despite being fictitious !

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You think you're being clever when in reality you fail to acknowledge anything being said to you

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noodles2112 wrote:

how do rain clouds that weigh tons hover above the earth -

Right, so rain clouds don't exist. Gotcha.

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@noodles2112, am I right in believing you are incapable of calculating the path of a cannonball, given the initial velocity?

Do you believe that your inability makes you better than those who can do this reliably?

[Reposted because I am still waiting for answer]

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noodles2112 wrote:

not going to get into "gravity" discussion - suffice it to say the natural & physical laws of density & buoyancy have scientifically explained why things ascend/descend/float/sink - long before Newtons theory of gravity came along.

The theory was required to explain why things, people , water etc. would stick to a spinning ball.

That's correct. And people have been able to climb hills and see the curvature of the Earth long before some people tried to pretend the Earth was flat. The Phoenicians discovered the Americas and then the Vikings. None of them fell off the edge.

Buoyancy and density don't, by themselves, explain floating and sinking. There needs to be a force that attracts things "downwards". At first people would just assume that massive objects are intrinsically pulled downwards by their weight. And that is exactly correct.

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@noodles2112 needs to show how to calculate the path of a cannonball using "bouyancy and density".

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I heard that lava lamp is so random that some companies use it for encryption methods.

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Apparently so. Cloudflare.

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