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well --- current stats show those who still believe in the "JFK assassination warren report" --------------------------------now reside ------- in the minority ---- why is that do you think -

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New World Order which Bush Sr. openly proclaimed to the world on Sept 11, 1991 -- (10 years to the day of the 9/11 event)

verifiable so-called "conspiracy theories.

plenty more that were considered conspiracy theories that became conspiracy facts.

Does one believe in the "conspiracy theory" of "aliens/extraterrestrials from outer space" - MSM certainly is painting a picture of Aliens/UFO's/UAP's from "outer space" !

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History -- you cannot debate me - your only recourse -- is ridicule/slander -- very easy to see!

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noodles2112 wrote:

History -- you cannot debate me - your only recourse -- is ridicule/slander -- very easy to see!

There is no debating you. If asked questions you redirect to something else.

Another of your long standing tactics.

I've never slandered you. Everything I've said is true.

Ridicule yes because you are ridiculous.

And I'm done.

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ok -- if that be true ----------------- yet --------- you keep coming back for more !

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noodles2112 wrote:

well --- current stats show those who still believe in the "JFK assassination warren report" --------------------------------now reside ------- in the minority ---- why is that do you think -

Truth is not democratic.

Democracy is for polling wishes, not facts.

You are someone who has replaced facts with wishes.

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I wish JFK was assassinated by Lee Harvey Oswald -

or

I wish JFK was assassinated by the CIA

or

I wish JFK was assassinated by the Mob

or

I wish JFK was assassinated by the Mossad

or

I wish Nasa went to the moon -

--- etc.

is that how it works -

the latter wish - I did wish -- & my wish ---- was shattered to smithereens sometime ago !

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addendum " Artemis crew member said " This is the First time humans will go to the moon"

what's up with that !!! ??

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It's a fake quote, that's what's up with it. You are one of the most consistently wrong people I have ever met!

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how is it a fake quote -- you mean the Nasa video circulating the internet - where it came from is fake ?

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It's a fake because half the sentence is missing!

Look up the video and you will find half the sentence has been removed by the crazy conspiracy theorists who base their world views on 100% believing someone they think is involved in a subterfuge, and then not being able to understand what they say.

What the astronaut said was "This is the first time we are going to send humans to the moon and we are going to have humans in low earth orbit".

This is a sentence comprised of two clauses indicating two things happening at the same time. Most people had no problem understanding this. I recall hearing it and immediately understanding the interesting point.

Anyone who thinks that he accidentally forgot that he was meant to pretend that there had been astronauts orbiting in the ISS for more than 20 years at the same time he forgot to pretend that humans had been to the moon during the Apollo program is only qualified to be a conspiracy theorist.

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"This is the first time we are going to send humans to the moon and we are going to have humans in low earth orbit"

exactly what are they trying to say here - 

humans allegedly have been spinning around the globe for decades - since Sputnik -

humans allegedly went to the moon 6 times 50 years ago 

so when they say this is the First time - that is obviously erroneous ! 

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Elroch wrote:

It's a fake quote, that's what's up with it. You are one of the most consistently wrong people I have ever met!

@Elroch
I agree with you about noodles - in other words he's also one of the most consistently wrong people I have ever met too.
But where we might differ is that - to me - his wrongness is intentional.
Or maybe we agree on that too.
And with such wrongness by him - there's motives. Payoffs. Strategies and tactics.
Even what he sees as 'benefits'. Quite a list.
And he has an agenda. Goals here. He practically blurted it out some posts ago.
His wrongness isn't 'randomness'.

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prove me wrong playerafar -

the Hercules was a plane built by Howard Hughes - flew in 1947 - one time only - 44 years after the Wright brothers first flight -

or did you miss the post(s) !

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playerafar wrote:
Elroch wrote:

It's a fake quote, that's what's up with it. You are one of the most consistently wrong people I have ever met!

@Elroch
I agree with you about noodles - in other words he's also one of the most consistently wrong people I have ever met too.
But where we might differ is that - to me - his wrongness is intentional.
Or maybe we agree on that too.
And with such wrongness by him - there's motives. Payoffs. Strategies and tactics.
Even what he sees as 'benefits'. Quite a list.
And he has an agenda. Goals here. He practically blurted it out some posts ago.
His wrongness isn't 'randomness'.

Yes. His agenda is to hijack threads as he has done for many years. What he actually believes is immaterial. What he actually does is obvious

Why he is allowed to here only Elroch can answer.

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If Elroch PM's me a "cease & desist" - I shall do more than just acknowledge it -

if you guys desire censorship - then create some thread protocols -- & I shall abide by them !

e.g. "Heliocentrism Dissent Shall NOT Be Tolerated" etc.

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@ Noodles
Could somebody prove to you that 2=2 ?
Earlier - regarding your post asking about why hangliders weren't developed earlier -
you made that post that is a 'talking point' and could be interpreted and used that way.
One of several such posts you made in recent weeks.
But that isn't what you wanted.
Its too late for you to take it back.
But - your recent shift - back to attacks on all of science - could be approached in multiple ways
1) ignored
2) somehow re-interpreted as a 'talking point' too - in such a way that more real science is discussed instead of the obvious pseudo-science of a flat and stationary earth.
But usually people don't react that way to the nonsense of flat-earthism.
But you regard that assignment of 'nonsense' to such illogic as flat-earthism - as justification to then spam your claims that real science is the nonsense.
3) the one you want. People ridiculing your positions and attacking you personally.
Some (a few) continue to not realize that that's what you're looking for.
4) your assertions and attacks on the reality of the earth going around the sun can simply be used as placeholders - for others to post around - about other things.
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Now - make sure you get bottom post now - and fail to get pingpong from me.
But you might get that from history-returned though - as usual he'll see you as his 'license'.
Coming up shortly probably.
A kind of 'job security' for him.

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so asking a question about hang gliding is something you detest if it is asked not to your timeline - still not 100% certain what you mean?

I prefer civil/cordial debates/discussions - unfortunately - some get extremely emotionally discombobulated via the mere mention of a "word(s)' e.g. flat earth seems to be at the very top of that very Long List !

That has nothing to do with me -- it has everything to do with the individuals "personal battles" via cognitive dissonance(s) --- ideas/notions/assumptions etc. clashing within their own personal Worldview/Core Belief system-

you claim I am seeking discord/mocking's/ridicules --- that's incorrect --- that is merely a byproduct via their cognitive dissonance !

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TenGolf-TPOT wrote:
noodles2112 wrote:

TenGolf-TPOT - yes I know -- its all "negated" -- no calculations/adjustments necessary -- its already "taken care of" via "atmospheric drag/conservation of momentum"

I didn't say that either, I said irrelevant. The speed they're saying is relative to the Earth's surface while the 67,000 mph figure is relative to the Sun

Once the spacecraft has broken through the atmosphere with the hot re-entry phase over with - then apparently its not just merging with the atmosphere - its motion is too.
Since San Diego is well north of the equator - the earth is spinning at under 900 mph there.
But at the equator its spinning at well over 1000 mph.
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So after Orion's parachutes opened - its soon falling vertically (if not already) but its still moving with both the earth's orbit (over 66,000 mph) and the earth's spin at that lat. (over 870 mph).
But in both cases neither of those speeds is 'relative' to the earth.

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does that somehow "differ" from "atmospheric drag/conservation of momentum" ?

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You rightly draw attention to the fact that re-entry is about transferring momentum from the craft to the atmosphere. Of course this generates a large amount of heat, because the kinetic energy is greatly reduced (momentum is proportional to velocity, kinetic energy to velocity squared).

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