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Does True Randomness Actually Exist?
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Apr 1, 2023
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#1803
I don't exaggerate. I get straight to the point otherwise I keep drifting into oblivion
Apr 1, 2023
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#1804
we accept the reality in which we are presented.
it's as simple as that.
Christopher from the Truman Show.
someone shoves a toy globe in your face and says this is where you live.
end of story!
Apr 1, 2023
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#1805
That's not how scientific education works, noodles. It's about teaching people the reasoning behind knowledge. It doesn't succeed with everyone.
Apr 1, 2023
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#1806
define education Elroch?
i can prove education and indoctrination are one and the same.
in the end though................does it really matter?
Apr 2, 2023
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#1807
No, you can't prove "education and indoctrination are one and the same".
Rather you can fool yourself of that.
Explain to me how arithmetic and grammar are "indoctrination"? The same goes for a long list of other things, but let's keep it simple for now.
Apr 2, 2023
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#1808
Is not schooling mostly memorization regurgitation?
Ever have a teacher/professor tell the class to try and prove them wrong about anything?
That is why teachers are teachers and the students are the students.
Those who had the greatest memorization capabilities received the highest scores.
Apr 2, 2023
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#1809
I would agree about that but schooling is about indoctrinating individuals. Understanding is up to the individual.
Any teacher deviating from set parameters shall be dealt with.
Apr 3, 2023
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#1810
noodles2112 wrote:
Is not schooling mostly memorization regurgitation?
No. As it happens I hated rote learning when young. This helped guide me towards maths and science where enough understanding made rote learning unimportant (the nearest I ever got to it was by being too lazy for 18 months of my chemistry 'A'-level (having already secured my place Cambridge to study maths), getting an "E" in my mock exam (albeit probably downgraded by a teacher who was hostile for a reason unconnected with academic matters) but got an 'A' in the actual A-level due to intensive revision that I didn't need for maths and physics. There was never a time when I did anything close to "rote learning" for maths or physics (well, since I learned the times tables!). I recall that when we got the text books for a new year, I used to enjoy reading them and understanding most of it before much of the year was gone.
Ever have a teacher/professor tell the class to try and prove them wrong about anything?
I was sometimes the student (a little arrogantly) trying to prove the professor wrong. And improving my understanding by failing - hint, that is a lot better than refusing to understand.
Of course, at (high) school, arguing against a textbook is even less likely to be successful, because what they are teaching is more elementary.
That is why teachers are teachers and the students are the students.
They are the teachers because they have years more experience and knowledge and have achieved a proven good level of understanding of their subject and have also learnt how to pass that understanding on to those students who are capable. [I am thinking more of sciences and maths, but it also applies to other subjects].
Those who had the greatest memorization capabilities received the highest scores.
The reason you think education is about rote learning is that your own understanding was, to be blunt, not good enough.
It's not too late to fix that!
Wait elroch you went to Cambridge? Impressive
Apr 3, 2023
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#1812
Yeah. In fact I was what is traditionally called a Cambridge wrangler. Which probably means I have been underachieving ever since...
VERY old news now though. 
Apr 3, 2023
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#1815
It's not really where you go, it's how well you make use of it. I would say many others have done better than me, for various reasons!
Apr 3, 2023
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#1816
I went to Cambridge. Those hollowed halls haunted by all of the great minds which have passed before inspired me for many years. I had a lot of fun as a janitor.
Apr 3, 2023
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#1817
College teaches you to teach yourself. Roll Tide! We stomped Cambridge many times in football.
Apr 3, 2023
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#1818
They always won the coin toss, which is something we've never been able to figure out.
noodles is an extremist. always has been.