Global warming - an urgent problem requiring radical solution (no politics or religion)

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DiogenesDue

I love how the video poster can't even spell Moderna right...and what a shame that the doctor's last name is covered by his stethoscope. Is it this guy? http://www.drjeffreyburke.com/ (careful, unsecured link)...because that would be funny.

LordBlundalot
DiogenesDue wrote:
LordBlundalot wrote:
rahul007t wrote:

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/126aFGRSB8B/

Was at a funeral last week 59 - heart attack. At the wake afterwards the bartender asked me who was paying me or the funeral party. Really it should have been Pfizer.

What ended the pandemic was the much milder Omicron variant and natural immunity. Not the absolute garbage "vaccines". The same government and media who lie and gaslight you about the endless wars also did the same about Covid and are still doing the same about climate too.

At the funeral was a friend whose sister-in-law had a heart attack in her early fifties. Doctors blamed it on "reflux". Meanwhile the media publishes a story about increasing Cancer rates every day to normalise it.

And meanwhile excess deaths have remained elevated in most countries beyond the pandemic, but not all countries.

That's a pretty big pile of excrement you have dropped there.

Just my personal experience - also backed up by excess death statistics. I could see your cognitive dissonance would be triggered. Here's some more. I seem to hear about a new cancer case every week - in fact I am going to a Barbecue today where a girl in her mid 30's has had a breast sarcoma. 2 People at work both have parents with cancer - one terminal. I don't know that many people that well, yet I seem to come across this all the time. This was not normal prior to 2021. Anyway even Greta's moved on from worrying about a bit of warm weather, I suggest you guys do to.

Festers-bester

The global death rate had remained constant for decades with spikes in local areas like Ukraine for obvious reasons. In 2020 and early 2021 the global death rate spiked by hundreds of thousands rapidly building to millions of deaths. After the vaccine was introduced the death rate slowly returned to what is now near normal.

There is nothing to explain this other than the outbreak of covid and the effectiveness of the vaccines.

You can pick individual cases even totalling a few thousand to try to prove covid was not a killer and/or the vaccines did not work or were dangerous if it makes you feel more knowledgeable than people in general or specifically in the medical field.

It won't make your case.

LordBlundalot

re: "There is nothing to explain this other than the outbreak of covid and the effectiveness of the vaccines."

There is - Natural immunity and a milder Omicron variant.

There's also this - why are excess deaths still elevated in 2024 in some countries but not others?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlBvymt5bAs

Festers-bester

Natural immunity does not work that fast.

Covid continued to mutate and vaccines tried to keep up. No medicine is 100% effective.

Try to imagine no vaccine.

AL-Johns

Content still being posted about vaccine. SeniorLazarusLong likes to link everything into gw, maybe he can explain the connection.

AL-Johns

Little miss chubby cheeks on another venture.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y264x3nnno

Who ate all the supplies.

Senior-Lazarus_Long
AL-Johns wrote:

Content still being posted about vaccine. SeniorLazarusLong likes to link everything into gw, maybe he can explain the connection.

Climate change is indeed linked to the emergence and spread of new infectious diseases. Rising temperatures and altered weather patterns are creating conditions that favor the transmission and expansion of pathogens, including viruses, bacteria, and fungi, into new geographic areas and populations.

Festers-bester

I don't agree with her 100% and certainly don't agree with her methods but at least she acts on her beliefs which is more than most people in the world.

AL-Johns

I was mentioning vaccine SeniorLazarusLong.

Have you skipped onto emerging infections, what you say is true although population levels and behaviour of more significance.

AL-Johns
Elroch wrote:

The graphs posted were from the OBR AFTER the period of huge spikes in price due to natural gas - when renewable electricity save THOUSANDS of pounds for each UK household because half the electricity did not require gas - ahad ended, and included your misleading cherry-picked data but also the relevant comparison.

To be very precise, at the time of the report in July 2023, the UK wholesale price of gas was £85/thm and it happens to be £85 today. Currently renewables are the cheapest source of electricity in the UK, and gas is a lot more expensive.

Note that while renewables are the cheapest electricity to produce, wholesale prices follow the vagaries of gas.

The price of UK electricity a National scandal. Unreliable output from solar and wind create issues for the grid https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdedjnw8e85o , UK chooses to balance from various sources including imported gas. A recipe for continued high prices. These are the choices being made today, cheaper options available which might be selected in future.

Festers-bester

Seems like a political problem not related to the reliability of wind or solar power.

This will likely continue to happen until governments disconnect from corporate wealth.

EndgameEnthusiast2357
LordBlundalot wrote:

re: "There is nothing to explain this other than the outbreak of covid and the effectiveness of the vaccines."

There is - Natural immunity and a milder Omicron variant.

There's also this - why are excess deaths still elevated in 2024 in some countries but not others?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlBvymt5bAs

Milder? I was in the hospital for 2 days with that one, and I was 22 at the time..

EndgameEnthusiast2357

Festers making good points but why the new account already lol?

Festers-bester

Life is circular. I'm back to my roots. (almost)

Festers-bester

DiogenesDue wrote: rahul007t wrote:

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/126aFGRSB8B/

I love how the video poster can't even spell Moderna right...and what a shame that the doctor's last name is covered by his stethoscope. Is it this guy? (careful, unsecured link)...because that would be funny.

..........

Burke is a health food supplement salesman.

His credentials in the fields of virology and medical research are well known. He has none.

The disclaimer on his podcast basically says 'don't listen to me. See your doctor'

BasixWhiteBoy

I'm taking an online course this summer called 'Environmental Studies' to get ahead in school. It's a course that focuses on the science that affects the world around us, in simple terms.

Anyway, I have to watch videos on many topics and usually answer some questions. I usually let the video play and listen to music, but it was about global warming, and I wanted to add something productive to this thread.

Here are my takeaways from two quick videos, and some things I learned.

The Earth started warming after the most recent ice age around 18000 years ago, where sea levels began to rise, and glacier advancement stopped. (Sea levels have risen 300 feet, and 16 degrees Celsius.)

Human activities leading to global warming:

Burning fossil fuels.

Farming and agriculture.

Deforestation.

Population growth.

Impact of global warming:

Flooding and droughts.

Rising sea levels.

Species extinction.

Spread of disease.

These other theories were put into the video as well.

Groups are skeptical of the impact of greenhouse emissions on the climate.

They argue that carbon dioxide is a not a significant greenhouse gas.

They believe water vapor is more significant for heat absorption.

And the greatest of all... Some think that global warming is a form of media alarmism.

Pretty much, I learned that people all around the world are the cause for the rapid increase in the global temperature due to using too many greenhouse gasses and burning fossil fuels.

Keep in mind that this course is for 10th-11th graders, so it doesn't go into much detail beyond that. I just figured I would share!

AG120502

So basically you learnt global warming is caused by people using fossil fuels?

BasixWhiteBoy

And that human activity creates more greenhouse gases than necessary.

But yes, just the basix.

AG120502

To say I’m disappointed is an understatement. Your brains have exceptional neuroplasticity. They should be teaching you more than that. This is why some random person should do a science experiment where the child’s learning is accelerated.