If the universe requires a creator then the creator should require a creator = religion is made-up

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The_Ghostess_Lola

You....are....not....going....to....get....any....scientific....breakthru's....before you die. Your arrow of time will run out (time always moves forward Smile - that is, until you can prove to me otherwise).

But, that's probably a good thing 'cuz it'll keep you preoccupied w/ others thoughts & beliefs that don't align w/ your own. 

drpsholder

The_Ghostess_Lola wrote:

You....are....not....going....to....get....any....scientific....breakthru's....before you die. Your arrow of time will run out (time always moves forward  - that is, until you can prove to me otherwise).

But, that's probably a good thing 'cuz it'll keep you preoccupied w/ others thoughts & beliefs that don't align w/ your own. 

Still proving that you cant be honest, huh? Thats ok i knew that you couldnt and proved my prediction by watching you not be able to be honest.

I pity you and the fact that you must lie to support your beliefs. Whahahahaha

Senior-Lazarus_Long
alex-rodriguez wrote:

Serving a magic god fairy (or what you call a higher cause) is being a slave. Why serve or suck up to anything? I prefer freedom. I also prefer reality. There is nothing real about "a higher cause".

You are not free;you are accountable to God for how you used the gift of your mortal life. It's a pass fail test. I believe in the evolutionary process,but is there any reason why God is not allowed to have a 20 billion years arts and crafts project,if He so wills it?

yureesystem

drpsholder 

The_Ghostess_Lola wrote:

....and BTW, I could not care less what you believe. I'm just expressing some of the things going on in my head as to all this.

And until I get some answers that go past just speculation, I'm going w/ what Blaise Pascal reasoned.

Besides, he was smarter than you !........

And speculation/belief is based on evidence..............so until you prove my evidence wrong, there is nothing wrong with maintaining my beliefs.

So its funny that you try to dismiss my answers as "speculation" as if there is no justification to them. But what's amazingly funny is that your ignorance allows you to think that speculation isn't justified.......but boy are you wrong. LOL

So what should I think about your intelligence when you have clearly shown that you don't have a clue as to what you are talking about? LMAO!   

 

 

 

What sad is stupidity has no cure, Lola insult you and you did not even realize it. Let me educate you, idiot, Briase Pascal wrote this book { Essay On Conics} , The book was published in 1640, and its highlight was the "mystics hexagram" a theorem related to the collinearity of intersection of lines. It also had hundred of propositions on conic sections, and influences from Apollonius and his successors. Pascal was only 16 years when he wrote Essay On Conics, her stated that Pascal is smarter than you is unstatement, how can you compare genius to stupidity. drpshoder, you are clearly an idiot. Embarassed

Leela_03

I would like to think I was created by intelligent design, than just a mere accident........so you are just an accident, did your mom and dad tell you that you were just an accident, I know my mom and dad wouldn't tell me that, and especially not my Father in heaven.Laughing

Senior-Lazarus_Long
yureesystem wrote:

drpsholder 

The_Ghostess_Lola wrote:

....and BTW, I could not care less what you believe. I'm just expressing some of the things going on in my head as to all this.

And until I get some answers that go past just speculation, I'm going w/ what Blaise Pascal reasoned.

Besides, he was smarter than you !........

And speculation/belief is based on evidence..............so until you prove my evidence wrong, there is nothing wrong with maintaining my beliefs.

So its funny that you try to dismiss my answers as "speculation" as if there is no justification to them. But what's amazingly funny is that your ignorance allows you to think that speculation isn't justified.......but boy are you wrong. LOL

So what should I think about your intelligence when you have clearly shown that you don't have a clue as to what you are talking about? LMAO!   

 

 

 

What sad is stupidity has no cure, Lola insult you and you did not even realize it. Let me educate you, idiot, Briase Pascal wrote this book { Essay On Conics} , The book was published in 1640, and its highlight was the "mystics hexagram" a theorem related to the collinearity of intersection of lines. It also had hundred of propositions on conic sections, and influences from Apollonius and his successors. Pascal was only 16 years when he wrote Essay On Conics, her stated that Pascal is smarter than you is unstatement, how can you compare genius to stupidity. drpshoder, you are clearly an idiot. 

Belief is based on trust,without evidence. Why would you believe God has to prove anything to you? You are only a creature who has to prove your worth to your master,not the other way round.

drpsholder

yureesystem wrote:

drpsholder 

The_Ghostess_Lola wrote:

....and BTW, I could not care less what you believe. I'm just expressing some of the things going on in my head as to all this.

And until I get some answers that go past just speculation, I'm going w/ what Blaise Pascal reasoned.

Besides, he was smarter than you !........

And speculation/belief is based on evidence..............so until you prove my evidence wrong, there is nothing wrong with maintaining my beliefs.

So its funny that you try to dismiss my answers as "speculation" as if there is no justification to them. But what's amazingly funny is that your ignorance allows you to think that speculation isn't justified.......but boy are you wrong. LOL

So what should I think about your intelligence when you have clearly shown that you don't have a clue as to what you are talking about? LMAO!   

 

 

 

What sad is stupidity has no cure, Lola insult you and you did not even realize it. Let me educate you, idiot, Briase Pascal wrote this book { Essay On Conics} , The book was published in 1640, and its highlight was the "mystics hexagram" a theorem related to the collinearity of intersection of lines. It also had hundred of propositions on conic sections, and influences from Apollonius and his successors. Pascal was only 16 years when he wrote Essay On Conics, her stated that Pascal is smarter than you is unstatement, how can you compare genius to stupidity. drpshoder, you are clearly an idiot. 

Except speculation can be based on evidence.......which means its justified. But Lola isnt too smart and seems to think speculation is unjustified.

Now you can try to prove me wrong.........i will wait and laugh at you while i wait. Whahahahahh

drpsholder

Hill61 wrote:

I would like to think I was created by intelligent design, than just a mere accident........so you are just an accident, did your mom and dad tell you that you were just an accident, I know my mom and dad wouldn't tell me that, and especially not my Father in heaven.

You were intelligently created.........naturally. There is no evidence of supernatural.

Care to show us your evidence since no one else can????

chessterd5
Anarchos61 wrote:
The_Ghostess_Lola wrote:

I still haven't got an answer. Why does the atheist even care what others think ? I mean, I don't care if you don't believe in a god 'cuz it means nothing to me.

I see the atheist as being a pawn down here in a K+R+flank P vs. K+R. IOW's, I don't see any statues of Darwin (in homage) anywhere. Why not ?....'cuz his fun little book doesn't address the real questions. Like - How did life first form ?....How did matter come about ?....Why doesn't time have a beginning ?....What's beyond the Particle Horizon - if there is one ?....and stuff like that.

This chess game seems like it's been hard fought. But the atheist side hasn't come up w/ any new novelties. It's just the same old moves....with no real answers. IOW's, the flank pawn side is about to show the atheist the Lucena Position........

And in the end ?....since you can't answer any of my hard questions ?....and you're not a good enuf salesperson to blind me with science ?

....then Mr Dolby ?....pleez take it from here ! 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEbsKs6IiUc

Because a belief in a god or gods, a position that an atheist would argue lacks evidence, skews the understanding of all sorts of other areas such as science, morality, society etc etc. Not only does this waste the time of a lot of people (their problem) but beliefs based on an illusion can be positively damaging (everyone else's problem!).

And there are a few statues of Darwin around, notably in the Natural History Museum in London. But, in any case, Evolution through Natural Selection - the work of lots of scientists and not just Darwin - neither proves nor disproves the existence of a god although it is rather unhelpful to the Argument from Design. 

Thank you for an honest & reasonable answer, expressed in a civil manner.Lola has some good points to consider.The fact that you took the time to respond in an intelligent manner is refreshing.  

Senior-Lazarus_Long

No evidence is required,and presumptive. Pride goes before the fall.

The_Ghostess_Lola

We haven't had a good existential breakthru since the Earth was found round ! Pleez, w/ all our wonderful technology today, don't expect any - anytime soon.

....and the Scientific Method is a moving target down at the carnival. But if you happen to hit one Dr. Ps Holder, I'll personally give you a stuffed Homer Simpson doll for your bedroom !

Leela_03

@ drpsholder

Why is man at the top of the food chain, and not monkeys?

Answer me that!Laughing

Senior-Lazarus_Long
Hill61 wrote:

@ drpsholder

Why is man at the top of the food chain, and not monkeys?

Answer me that!

We have them outnumbered,in general. If you were surrounded by five hungry baboons,you would not be top dog,but could fight 'till the end to represent your species. ;p

Leela_03

boys boys, you did not answer my question, I asked you a specific question, why are we at the top of the food chain and not monkeys..... oh, my, a hard one I know!  lol

Senior-Lazarus_Long
Senior-Lazarus_Long wrote:
Hill61 wrote:

@ drpsholder

Why is man at the top of the food chain, and not monkeys?

Answer me that!

We have them outnumbered,in general. If you were surrounded by five hungry baboons,you would not be top dog,but could fight 'till the end to represent your species. ;p

Leela_03

@ Laz

I was asking the atheists, not you, and that is not really the answer, is it?

Senior-Lazarus_Long
alex-rodriguez wrote:
Senior-Lazarus_Long wrote:
alex-rodriguez wrote:

Serving a magic god fairy (or what you call a higher cause) is being a slave. Why serve or suck up to anything? I prefer freedom. I also prefer reality. There is nothing real about "a higher cause".

You are not free;you are accountable to God for how you used the gift of your mortal life. It's a pass fail test. I believe in the evolutionary process,but is there any reason why God is not allowed to have a 20 billion years arts and crafts project,if He so wills it?

You have zero evidence for your ridiculous god fantasy. You are a slave. A non-existent magical being is your master. I can't imagine anything more pathetic.

No evidence is required,and presumptive. Pride goes before the fall.

I am not a slave. I believe in God because I hope to slink into purgatory when I die. The prospect of eternity in hell scares me,and belief is free of charge. So,why not?

The_Ghostess_Lola
alex-rodriguez wrote:

The human ape species is not on top of the food chain. Ask anyone who has encountered a Great White Shark or a grizzly bear.

Well, if they're still here to tell us about it, then they did something right....like shot them w/ bear spray or shot a scuba tank that was stuffed in his mouth....Smile.... 

The_Ghostess_Lola

So that's it A-Rod !....you're not gonna answer to noone are you ?

See ?....all atheists have an innate motivation to ward off a belief in some thing....even if it's garlic or a wooden stake.

The_Ghostess_Lola

....and I'll have you know that if you flip a shark over on its belly, they become meek as a kitten. They start purring and fish giggle and stuff like that.

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