"Did your mother raise any nonbrain dead children"
C'mon, that's just abusive.
If the universe requires a creator then the creator should require a creator = religion is made-up
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The site should outlaw these disgusting adhomination attacks.
Left-brained people and right-brained people don't communicate well. Add to that the fact that people with different belief systems are only wasting their time trying to communicate.
Just look at alex-rodriguez's last post!
Sep 11, 2015
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#984
Stephenson2 wrote:
iluvzmetuna wrote:
When all else fails, go for an ad homination attack!
Is that not what G*****-L*** and a few others are doing over and over again on a corporate scale. I say her,She says "All non-beleivers" I think if you want me to stop she sould
Well yeah you're probably right, but that's not an excuse to jump into the same gutter. That comment about the woman's mother was just plain nasty, in fact I'm surprised the moderator let it through.
Lol
You guys! LMFAO!
Sep 11, 2015
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#986
Actually, I don't accept that claim S2.
The Khmer Rouge were Buddhists, but you wouldn't say the Cambodian genocide was caused by Buddhism, would you?
Admirable effort trying to explain evolution to creationists, Ghostliner. But I think you will find this to be a futile pursuit, since their minds are already made up (or have been made up for them) and are unlikely to be changed by reasoning or facts. If it were possible to reason with the religious, they wouldn't be religious.
Sep 11, 2015
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#989
TheChairmaker wrote:
Admirable effort trying to explain evolution to creationists, Ghostliner. But I think you will find this to be a futile pursuit, since their minds are already made up (or have been made up for them) and are unlikely to be changed by reasoning or facts. If it were possible to reason with the religious, they wouldn't be religious.
Good point, well made. Reminds me of that old saying: A shepherd and his flock are worth two in the nick of time ... or something like that.
Joseph-S wrote:
Atheist's belief in three easy steps:
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Joseph-S, you should learn about this person (If you don't know him yet):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georges_Lema%C3%AEtre
Sep 11, 2015
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#992
iluvzmetuna wrote:
Viva la Frawnce!
Oh thank gawd you've come back !....where have u been ?
Ghostliner wrote:
The_Ghostess_Lola wrote:
Out to ARod & Ghostliner:
That...is....not....the....point !
The point is, what was it all like before the BB ?....if there was a BB. There is not one person here that can comprehend physical infinity. And if you say so, then I'm calling you a liar....right here and right now ! We are gonna probe physical infinity and the atheist better have some answers or I promise you - you will exit w/ your tail between your legs !
Two: where did all that matter come from ?....if there was a BB to blow it all up.
Forget evolution....that's not getting to the point ! I am here to make the atheist nice & uncomfortable. And if you think I'm gonna be sweet & christian-like about it ?....then you are very much in the wrong fibre.
Hi Lola,
I do feel I should reply to this.
First of all, you're confusing evolutionary theory with another discipline. In fact, the theory of evolution isn't really a theory at all, not any more; it's a toolkit, a method, one which working scientists use every day, one which provides a complete, elegant, self-contained and completely satisfying explanation for the origin of species - and it's simple too (the best theories often are). However, evolution says nothing at all about how life, or matter, or the universe arose, that's a quite different field of enquiry, called abiogenesis.
Secondly, we know that time is a function of space. This is one of the outcomes of relativity theory and it's been proved, beyond any dispute now, by a host of experiments that have been successfully replicated thousands of times since Einstein first formulated this idea in 1921; so to postulate what may have happened before big bang is a dead end - there was no "before" big bang, not in the sense that we understand temporal space, anyway.
One final point: I'm entitled to my opinion, just like everyone else. I know, I know, this is an emotive subject but it's an interesting and important one too. Now, while you're clearly a thoughtful and intelligent person, threatening people who won't accept your view with some kind of sweeping, wrathful, mega-meta-virtual-destruction just makes you look demented, frankly...
...not unlike the God of the Old Testament, now I come to think of it.
Yes this is another thing on the very long list of "things anti-evolutionists are unaware of".
Evolution isnt anymore a theory that is debated, like theres some scientists trying to proove it and some trying to disprove it.
Its accepted like the periodic system or Ohms laws, and it is something you use as a tool everyday.
Nothing in biology today would work without it.
Biologists working on new species (or badly known species) routinely look at the evolutionary known relatives of the species to understand it.
If we use the example before mentioned with the whales mini-hind legs inside its body, if the new unknown species is a mammal with a weird body plan, the biologist will look for the bones that aren't there at the first glance, - because he knows its there because the evolutionary prehistory of the species.
Say you found some mammal with no forelegs, he's gonna look for what happened to the foreleg bones. There going to be in there somwhere, because he know they had them before in their evolutionary history.
This is the same with insects, plants, grass, mushrooms, any organism.
You also use evolution theory in daily experiments. Like you have no more anti-goat protein antibodies (antibodies are used in a lot of tests) but plenty of anti-sheep proteins. You go "o well, goat and sheep are very evolutionary close, so the proteins are similar, therefore the anti-sheep antibodies will react with goat proteine, but i cannot use very well anti-mouse antibodies and not at all anti-plantpollen antibodies. And it works!
The same when you find a new insect, you know how insect life phases work, so you will look for a larvae state if you only have adult specimens. You wont just go "o well, these guys were probably designed by Mr Designer to be completely different", because you have a biological tool theory so you already know a lot of what is going on and what you need to look for.
Nothing in biology that happened last 100 years would happen the way it did without evolution theory as a tool, the same way chemistry just wouldnt work without the periodic system.
And like periodic system, if something is used as a tool for a hundred years and it works, it's just NOT GOING TO HAPPEN, that you find out it is wrong.
Sorry to say, it seems to me creationists simply arent smart or educated enough to understand what evolution theory is, this problem is maybe bigger problem than any other thing.
People always go "if evolution is true then..." and then follows some total childish nonsense.
People think that big bang is part of evolution, even though every one should know biology is about LIVING things and there werent any living things around in the big bang.
People say no missing links, even though the paleontologists have been HAULING them out of the ground for a century. Creationists just dont follow anything and know nothing.
The level is just so incredibly low, it seems more like a problem of having slow minds with big difficulty in understanding new things.
Sep 11, 2015
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#996
(#1500) She also claimed that Darwin recanted on evolution and accepted Jesus on his deathbed.
Many of you will do the same....you just can't imagine doing it right now - but you will. Others will curse his name. In fact, some of you do that now.
Either way, you will have acknowledged God.
You see....your ego & self-gratification is directly proportional to time. The less time the less ego. And finally ?....you die Earthly insignificant. Insignificant....except to one.
Just trying to help to fool here....Heaven help them.
Evolution is not new either, its 150 years old.
Why people need 150 years to understand that big bang is not part of evolution? It should be something you could understand in like 10 seconds without even thinking about it.
You get explained "evolution is about living things", and then you dont even need to spend much time thinking if something NOT living, like big bang or rock formations or solar flares or "mayybe or maybe not is part of it. Jeehz is so haaard for my little tired brain to understand if big bang or a rock formation is living thing or not, sooo complex for little me."
Then you take 150 years instad of 10 seconds, very very slow working minds.
The_Ghostess_Lola wrote:
(#1500) She also claimed that Darwin recanted on evolution and accepted Jesus on his deathbed.
Many of you will do the same....you just can't imagine doing it right now - but you will. Others will curse his name. In fact, some of you do that now.
Either way, you will have acknowledged God.
You see....your ego & self-gratification is directly proportional to time. The less time the less ego. And finally ?....you die Earthly insignificant. Insignificant....except to one.
Just trying to help to fool here....Heaven help them.
heh i was on my deathbed already (or rather in a car), and no jesus.
easy to make up that people that thing they will die "find jesus".
easy to make up things, difficult and hard to think about things, seek information, be open minded, be prepared to change views if new good evidence.
Sep 11, 2015
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#999
Ghostliner wrote:
"Did your mother raise any nonbrain dead children"
C'mon, that's just abusive.
Thanx GL for your aide....
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If I deserve it, then so be it. But you're right....there is a line out there that probably shouldn't be X'd.
the bible proves evolution to be faults? and also universe theory?
The Bible cannot prove much of anything...
yes.
No religious books prove anything, they are supposed to be revelations, god's words, songs, propheties, etc ... Holy books of anykind are half fairy tales, half inspire fears of all kinds, the third half is to give some hope after death. And if omeone wants to have the control, the power, wnats to sell something, anything or better ...nothing, just use fear . (Ole philosoph retired sayin 63 years ole, young friends!).