Is literacy a dying requirement for communication?

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Festerthetester

When TV became available to all it was touted as the greatest boon to learning since the printed word. It turned out quite differently. It is arguably the biggest boon to advertising since the soap box.

I fear the internet is on a similar slope downward. It has become a veritable maze of knowledge vs fables. Fact vs fiction. Truth vs lies. However, my gripe is more basic. The problem I see permeates all area of information, even from sources you would least expect: Literacy.

At first it was just young people who could not create a cohesive sentence or spell words with more than one syllable. Now I see an increase in the same from trusted news sources and established businesses. It isn't just the use of acronyms, in itself a sign of lazy writing. It's a general disregard for literacy.

Granted, it is most prevalent in areas that are meaningless, like social media or comments on videos or news items where comments are solicited. But that is an indication of a society that is losing it's grip on rational expression. It's always been true that speech, in any language, most commonly English, is an amalgam of dialects, many of which come from a lesser educated portion of those countries that speak it. However, when writing down thoughts one would think some discipline would prevail.

Do we no longer teach basics in English such as sentence structure, spelling, vocabulary and punctuation? Are they no longer important. Are we headed towards a society that relies solely on artificial intelligence for written communication?

Festerthetester

Bruh

EscherehcsE

Chat GPT got here just in time. And English 101 has been replaced with Pronouns 101.

shadowhb123
I see the predicament you are attempting to make here sire, but as abbreviations are undoubtedly faster and more efficient we use them more often. Be rest assured we still have english class.
shadowhb123
I coulda typed that way faster by saying: bro we arent dumb its just quicker we have school for a reason
Festerthetester

Nice try but you "coulda" said could have and what "predicament" am I trying to make?

shadowhb123
*make out
Minor typo
shadowhb123
Well i guess that counts as shortening when i could say “predicament you are making us out to be in”
Festerthetester

I not i. See? Is that your method of shortening?

Goldmilitarywind

Bra

Goldmilitarywind

Poo

Festerthetester

Another mature mind has joined the conversation.

Wits-end

To quote one of my college professors, “If the student hasn’t learnt, the teacher ain’t taught.” I agree with the OP (see, I just did it) in that acquiring communication skills has not been a priority in many educational programs. My question is this, did our generation fail to adequately prepare subsequent generations or did the explosion of technology catch all of us flat-footed?

Festerthetester
Wits-end wrote:

To quote one of my college professors, “If the student hasn’t learnt, the teacher ain’t taught.” I agree with the OP (see, I just did it) in that acquiring communication skills has not been a priority in many educational programs. My question is this, did our generation fail to adequately prepare subsequent generations or did the explosion of technology catch all of us flat-footed?

The version I learned as a teacher was "If learning isn't happening neither is teaching". Same thing.

I think both. Lesson plans from the 40s were not updated to meet requirements of the 80s and so on. Exacerbating the issue was crowded schools, discipline problems due to both parents working, pressure from certain groups emphasizing social growth as opposed to pure education ( passing students through school without having them meet any required testing ).

I think a stronger influence has been basic internet pressure to be like everyone else (illiterate) and to discount the value of communication skills. The fact that "everyone does it" is a stronger motivator of a young mind than right or wrong at any level.

TheRealTorchLit
Literacy is necessary when speaking to distinguished peoples(yes, I did mean to do that)
Festerthetester

Literacy is required to be understood by literate people whether distinguished or not.

Wits-end
Festerthetester wrote:
Wits-end wrote:

To quote one of my college professors, “If the student hasn’t learnt, the teacher ain’t taught.” I agree with the OP (see, I just did it) in that acquiring communication skills has not been a priority in many educational programs. My question is this, did our generation fail to adequately prepare subsequent generations or did the explosion of technology catch all of us flat-footed?

The version I learned as a teacher was "If learning isn't happening neither is teaching". Same thing.

I think both. Lesson plans from the 40s were not updated to meet requirements of the 80s and so on. Exacerbating the issue was crowded schools, discipline problems due to both parents working, pressure from certain groups emphasizing social growth as opposed to pure education ( passing students through school without having them meet any required testing ).

I think a stronger influence has been basic internet pressure to be like everyone else (illiterate) and to discount the value of communication skills. The fact that "everyone does it" is a stronger motivator of a young mind than right or wrong at any level.

Well stated.

Festerthetester

Literacy in speech is not near as important as in writing. In speech one might be asked to clarify something misunderstood. That's impossible when writing a book or a term paper or resume'.

TheRealTorchLit
You are correct. However, if talking online to someone, clarification can be done over a text-based format
Festerthetester

That is, of course, true. But wouldn't it be better and easier to write it once intelligently, so no one is confused or misunderstands?