Thanks @simaginfan. I came across an interesting record on radio today:
Jazz, Jews and Henry Ford
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ok you really did a lot of writing in that thing
I wanted to get back to this thread earlier but life threw one of its infamous curveballs that I had to deal with.
I knew Ford was a cold, hard son-of-a-whatever but I didn't know he was so anti-semitic. I know that he tried improving his assembly line method so much that eventually he couldn't pay people enough to work like living machines. No amount of money can keep you sane while twisting the same bolts as fast as humanly possible every day for eight to twelve hours.
I've listened to some klezmer but I'm not very knowledgeable about it. I think it seems somewhat like bluegrass to me because of the similar instrumentation, overall mood of some of the music, and that the different instruments tend to take turns stepping to the fore. I think this is the first klezmer I stumbled on.
What do you mean
Jan 13, 2022
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Kindness towards others is the opposite of racism, prejudice and bigotry. That is how these videos relate to the thread......
Jan 13, 2022
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#64"I wanted to get back to this thread earlier but life threw one of its infamous curveballs that I had to deal with.
I knew Ford was a cold, hard son-of-a-whatever but I didn't know he was so anti-semitic. I know that he tried improving his assembly line method so much that eventually he couldn't pay people enough to work like living machines. No amount of money can keep you sane while twisting the same bolts as fast as humanly possible every day for eight to twelve hours."
I think this is where the line "I can't stand it anymore!" comes from. You need a sitting break sometimes.......
Jan 13, 2022
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CooloutAC wrote:
kamalakanta wrote:
Kindness towards others is the opposite of racism, prejudice and bigotry. That is how these videos relate to the thread......
you saw black and jews and automatically thought racism?
No. Did you read the article? Did you read about Ford's anti-Semitism?
This text is from the beginning of this article:
" One of the prime hate-mongers was the otherwise great industrialist, Henry Ford.
The book only gives this (to me, eye-opening) small tidbit:
"Automobile magnate, noted racist, and fierce anti–Semite Henry Ford wrote about jazz in his own newspaper, the Dearborn Independent, referring to the music of black jazz
players as '[m]onkey talk, jungle squeals … camouflaged by a few feverish notes,' and warning of “the abandoned sensuousness of sliding notes” from Jewish jazz players."
A cursory Google search led me to this page: https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/04/mayors-bid-to-censor-article-on-henry-fords-anti-semitism-goes-viral.html
The above article is definitely worth reading in toto, but for me the most significant element was that it mentioned that Ford's articles in the "Dearborn Independent" (an odd name for a tightly controlled propaganda outlet) were compiled in book-form:
Many of the Independent’s articles were eventually compiled in a book, 'The International Jew,' that Hitler said was translated, reprinted and circulated throughout Germany, according to the 1923 article in the 'Chicago Tribune'."
Much to my surprise, I was able to secure a 1997 reprint (highly abridged with only 275 of the original 1000+ pages) of this book. The reprint was a flagrant attempt to appeal to White Supremacists by extolling and promulgating Henry Ford's hateful rhetoric, as can be seen by this quote (one of many) from the editor:
"The Zionist and International Jewish problem he [ford] talked and wrote extensively about still remains with us, perhaps more insidiously than ever, since this group, collectively, seems to control the media in important centers of the world, coupled with its dominance in the electronic means of communications that now control what can and cannot be read by us all."
Even the term "Jewish problem" is holocaustic rhetoric. "
There are brighter days ahead:
They say if you kiss just before midnight...
Bro will you stop doing this in every thread
Jan 14, 2022
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CooloutAC wrote:
kamalakanta wrote:
CooloutAC wrote:
kamalakanta wrote:
Kindness towards others is the opposite of racism, prejudice and bigotry. That is how these videos relate to the thread......
you saw black and jews and automatically thought racism?
No. Did you read the article? Did you read about Ford's anti-Semitism?
This text is from the beginning of this article:
" One of the prime hate-mongers was the otherwise great industrialist, Henry Ford.
The book only gives this (to me, eye-opening) small tidbit:
"Automobile magnate, noted racist, and fierce anti–Semite Henry Ford wrote about jazz in his own newspaper, the Dearborn Independent, referring to the music of black jazz
players as '[m]onkey talk, jungle squeals … camouflaged by a few feverish notes,' and warning of “the abandoned sensuousness of sliding notes” from Jewish jazz players."
A cursory Google search led me to this page: https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/04/mayors-bid-to-censor-article-on-henry-fords-anti-semitism-goes-viral.html
The above article is definitely worth reading in toto, but for me the most significant element was that it mentioned that Ford's articles in the "Dearborn Independent" (an odd name for a tightly controlled propaganda outlet) were compiled in book-form:
Many of the Independent’s articles were eventually compiled in a book, 'The International Jew,' that Hitler said was translated, reprinted and circulated throughout Germany, according to the 1923 article in the 'Chicago Tribune'."
Much to my surprise, I was able to secure a 1997 reprint (highly abridged with only 275 of the original 1000+ pages) of this book. The reprint was a flagrant attempt to appeal to White Supremacists by extolling and promulgating Henry Ford's hateful rhetoric, as can be seen by this quote (one of many) from the editor:
"The Zionist and International Jewish problem he [ford] talked and wrote extensively about still remains with us, perhaps more insidiously than ever, since this group, collectively, seems to control the media in important centers of the world, coupled with its dominance in the electronic means of communications that now control what can and cannot be read by us all."
Even the term "Jewish problem" is holocaustic rhetoric. "
I'm personally not interested. I'm here to talk about music. I posted about a famous jewish jazz musician who is the most famous trombonist in latin music and a pioneer of salsa. I don't know if you are thinking you are helping the jewish people, but all you are doing is shining light on negativity that some people might actually take to. The OP imo was promoting integration and universality. And imo you should try to focus on that.
It was one of the main points of the beginning of this article. Not my fault.
Did you see the videos on kindness by Mr. Hartman? In what way do these hurt anything? and you are accusing me of negativity?
BRUH THIS IS NOT like a place where you chat by yourself
Jan 14, 2022
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#77
CooloutAC wrote:
kamalakanta wrote:
CooloutAC wrote:
kamalakanta wrote:
CooloutAC wrote:
kamalakanta wrote:
Kindness towards others is the opposite of racism, prejudice and bigotry. That is how these videos relate to the thread......
you saw black and jews and automatically thought racism?
No. Did you read the article? Did you read about Ford's anti-Semitism?
This text is from the beginning of this article:
" One of the prime hate-mongers was the otherwise great industrialist, Henry Ford.
The book only gives this (to me, eye-opening) small tidbit:
"Automobile magnate, noted racist, and fierce anti–Semite Henry Ford wrote about jazz in his own newspaper, the Dearborn Independent, referring to the music of black jazz
players as '[m]onkey talk, jungle squeals … camouflaged by a few feverish notes,' and warning of “the abandoned sensuousness of sliding notes” from Jewish jazz players."
A cursory Google search led me to this page: https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/04/mayors-bid-to-censor-article-on-henry-fords-anti-semitism-goes-viral.html
The above article is definitely worth reading in toto, but for me the most significant element was that it mentioned that Ford's articles in the "Dearborn Independent" (an odd name for a tightly controlled propaganda outlet) were compiled in book-form:
Many of the Independent’s articles were eventually compiled in a book, 'The International Jew,' that Hitler said was translated, reprinted and circulated throughout Germany, according to the 1923 article in the 'Chicago Tribune'."
Much to my surprise, I was able to secure a 1997 reprint (highly abridged with only 275 of the original 1000+ pages) of this book. The reprint was a flagrant attempt to appeal to White Supremacists by extolling and promulgating Henry Ford's hateful rhetoric, as can be seen by this quote (one of many) from the editor:
"The Zionist and International Jewish problem he [ford] talked and wrote extensively about still remains with us, perhaps more insidiously than ever, since this group, collectively, seems to control the media in important centers of the world, coupled with its dominance in the electronic means of communications that now control what can and cannot be read by us all."
Even the term "Jewish problem" is holocaustic rhetoric. "
I'm personally not interested. I'm here to talk about music. I posted about a famous jewish jazz musician who is the most famous trombonist in latin music and a pioneer of salsa. I don't know if you are thinking you are helping the jewish people, but all you are doing is shining light on negativity that some people might actually take to. The OP imo was promoting integration and universality. And imo you should try to focus on that.
It was one of the main points of the beginning of this article. Not my fault.
Then my apologies you are correct and I was wrong. I also mentioned racism myself in my post when I said it is my personal belief its the reason they closed down the Paladium Ballroom in NYC in 1966.
Peace, brother.
I played in a band with Lewis Khan, who used to play the trombone and violin with Tito Puente.
Lewis loved Jazz dearly, and could improvise really well.
In the Salsa world they called him "The Jewish Saint" (El Santo Judío). His spiritual name was Voirabh.
He was one of the most peaceful and harmless people I ever met. Never saw him angry; never saw him raise his voice. Miss him greatly.
Voirabh Lewis Khan (1946-2019)
Jan 14, 2022
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This "Bang Bang" song was huge when I was growing up!
My sister was really good at dancing Salsa....perhaps her favorite Salsa was "Celia Cruz y la Sonora Ponceña".....
Jan 14, 2022
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CooloutAC wrote:
kamalakanta wrote:
This "Bang Bang" song was huge when I was growing up!
Bunch of Puerto Ricans singing Cornbread! hog maws and chitlins! haha check out this reunion.
I grew up listening to Cheo Feliciano.....what a voice!
send friend request pls