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I think both smoking and over eating are ridiculous both eventually lead to bad health a poorer quality of life and smelling bad i believe everything in moderation if you smoked once a month or went out to a feast every month it would be fine or at least not to bad for you. But to become so addicted that you need something every day to the point of ruining your health that is just weak i see no excuse for it.
But alot of smokers have a different subconcious reason for smoking. Like... to reveal hidden laser traps.
We don't need an 'excuse' for smoking. Its a legal activity that people have engaged in for ages, the health concious can stick to whatever they're doing, and we'll stick to what we're doing. Trying to prevent it seems just so 'police-state'y.
I don't understand the health argument though, I mean, you think telling a smoker that smoking harms him is gunna make him turn around and say "Holy Crap, I didn't realise! I thought they were cleaning my lungs."
See, here is where cigarettes can save your life. If you were a CIA agent or FBI agent or whatever covert ops guy you were and you were sneaking into the Chess.com headquarters to change your rating, or make the Boungcloud opening a standard opening available in the turn-based games setup (hint hint), you could smoke and get past ALL of Erik's security systems! That is BRILLIANT!!!! Lasers will never stop me now.
I am going to put my 2 cents into this discussion as a person from another country.( Canada ). In my province you cannot smoke in any public building , nor any eating establishment,nor any public drinking establishment. You also cannot smoke anywhere in or around your place of work. All these places you have to be at least 30 feet away from the building. Now all this strikes me as just a tad hypercritical ,seeing as the government makes loads of money off of what is essentially an ADDICTION !!! I did not ask to be addicted. When I started smoking I had no idea that it was addictive.(1967) I might also point out that alcohol kills way more people and damages more lives then smoking,but where is the government on that issue. Oh, I forgot , There is that money thing again. I wonder where are nonsmoking brethren are on that issue.
oscar1955, if the government were to allow cigarretes everywhere, then people who are victim to second-hand smoking will protest against the government, and the members might not be re-elected in the next election. The government will be accused of letting non-smokers die because smoker are allowed to smoke anywhere they want.
Arwarman wrote: calvinhobbesliker wrote:
actually, a saw a "smoking room" in airports on my way to india and back a few months ago
Get them in the pubs quick! They're trying to take away our outdoor heaters now aswell due to them contributing to global warming... Don't anti smokers have anything better to do? Like stop complaining about us harming your health. If you're that bothered get out the pubs and go for a bloody jog instead...
non-smokers should have the right to have access to public places without the fear of being harmed by smoking. Even though pubs might be in Angland more than the United States, that doesn't mean I can't protest against smoking in public places where innocent people go on a regular daily or weekly basis.
Most non-smoking laws I understand (no restaurants, other public places). But bars? You're here to injest a poisonous liquid and possibly have sex with a stranger, but you don't want to get any second hand smoke?
well, you can choose whether or not to drink alcholol or have sex in a bar, but you can't choose whether or not you second-hand smoke because you can't control the actions of others
Arwarman wrote:
But alot of smokers have a different subconcious reason for smoking. Like... to reveal hidden laser traps.
We don't need an 'excuse' for smoking. Its a legal activity that people have engaged in for ages, the health concious can stick to whatever they're doing, and we'll stick to what we're doing. Trying to prevent it seems just so 'police-state'y.
I don't understand the health argument though, I mean, you think telling a smoker that smoking harms him is gunna make him turn around and say "Holy Crap, I didn't realise! I thought they were cleaning my lungs."
I really don't care how much smoking harms smokers, but I care if I have to breathe unfiltered second hand smoke and get lung cancer. One reason people look down on smokers is that they harm others just to feed an addiction.
i agree, but the government doesn't ban it because they make money off it and they need money to pay the national debt which is in the trillions now!
The government is taking advantage of innocent citizens by selling and advertising a highly addictive drug. It's all a scam. Just like the lottery is a scam. The government makes money off of innocent citizens who buy lottery tickets. The winners pay so much in taxes that they really don't win much money at all. Let's say you win one million dollars in a lottery. You have an option of receiving it over maybe 10 years, or getting it right then. If you collect the prize immediately, you don't receive the whole amount. So you'd get maybe $700,000 dollars. Then you have to pay a huge luxury tax right then, which would be maybe $200,000 dollars. So already you've lost half of the prize. Then you have to pay huge luxury taxes annually for owning so much money. Soon, you'd have nothing left. It's all a scam!!!!!!!!!!!
700,000 to 200,000 is not a 50% decrease
You would have to pay $200,000 out of $700,000, leaving you with $500,000, which is 50% of $1,000,000. That's what I meant.
oh, thank's for clearing that up
I guess I worded it a bit confusingly.
yes you did, but you can spend all that money before they tax you.
Feb 23, 2008
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oscar1955 wrote: I might also point out that alcohol kills way more people and damages more lives then smoking,
Really?
I was sure it was the other way around.
Feb 23, 2008
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I'm all for the bar scene having the right to keep the puffers puffing indoors and in the recent past enjoyed a nice cigar while playing chess with a Scotch in hand. Second hand smoke never bothered me when in the party mode. At least I was prepared for it unlike the dam car exhaust I constantly gag over while walking through the city every day..
That said I no longer drink or smoke. Call me a bore..
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