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Tom writes:

I take groove masters point that to concentrate on nothing is not the same as to concentrate on something .

STOP !!! GrooveMaster never said any such thing, not even close. Can't you read ? You've been asked a dozen times Tom by many here, STOP putting words into other people's mouth . You will never understand what meditation is. Give it up.

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Tom writes:

I think of the maxim that nothing travels faster than the speed of light .

That will forever be true no ?

False tom

Events have been found that travel faster than the speed of light.

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Hmmm.
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I'll copy and paste the difference between meditating and mindfulness .

I think it's true that people struggle with death and it's a valid opinion to say that perhaps everything will change . We resist that as we resist death .

Thanks for that astute observation .
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1st of Many{?}.. 'Pet beliefs' and-or hypotheses, of the otherwise honorable 'Tom'..'blown-to-smithereens'?!

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I'm open to the truth sa . If god exists fine I want to know . I don't believe it but if I'm wrong then fine.

I'm curious sa . Do you imagine god to have a physical appearance or be an energy ?
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Anyway this thread is about how we can alter our consciousness and what we can hope to see because of that .
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Most textbooks say that nothing can go faster than light, but that statement actually should be qualified: The answer is yes, you can break the light barrier, but not in the way we see in the movies. There are, in fact, several ways to travel faster than light:

1. The Big Bang itself expanded much faster than the speed of light. But this only means that "nothing can go faster than light." Since nothing is just empty space or vacuum, it can expand faster than light speed since no material object is breaking the light barrier. Therefore, empty space can certainly expand faster than light.

2. If you wave a flashlight across the night sky, then, in principle, its image can travel faster than light speed (since the beam of light is going from one part of the Universe to another part on the opposite side, which is, in principle, many light years away). The problem here is that no material object is actually moving faster than light. (Imagine that you are surrounded by a giant sphere one light year across. The image from the light beam will eventually hit the sphere one year later. This image that hits the sphere then races across the entire sphere within a matter of seconds, although the sphere is one light year across.) Just the image of the beam as it races across the night sky is moving faster than light, but there is no message, no net information, no material object that actually moves along this image.

3. Quantum entanglement moves faster than light. If I have two electrons close together, they can vibrate in unison, according to the quantum theory. If I then separate them, an invisible umbilical cord emerges which connects the two electrons, even though they may be separated by many light years. If I jiggle one electron, the other electron "senses" this vibration instantly, faster than the speed of light. Einstein thought that this therefore disproved the quantum theory, since nothing can go faster than light.

But actually this experiment (the EPR experiment) has been done many times, and each time Einstein was wrong. Information does go faster than light, but Einstein has the last laugh. This is because the information that breaks the light barrier is random, and hence useless. (For example, let's say a friend always wears one red sock and one green sock. You don't know which leg wears which sock. If you suddenly see that one foot has a red sock, then you know instantly, faster than the speed of light, that the other sock is green. But this information is useless. You cannot send Morse code or usable information via red and green socks.)

4. Negative matter. The most credible way of sending signals faster than light is via negative matter.

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Tom writes in another thread:

I suppose that if you did kill yourself and found yourself to still be aware you might be pretty frustrated .

Is this guy messed up in the head or what?

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Tom has created 20+ threads, a dozen in the last week, all revolving around the same thing.... his insecurities, living life in ignorance and denial.

OCD

seek professional help

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Green socks ?
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Beyond your comprehension abilities tom.

Refers to useless information. (Green/red socks).A concept of physics. Quantum entanglement is proven to exist. One of many theorems that Einstein refused to except. He was wrong in quite a few areas, especially later in life where his dogmatic views interfered with the latest discoveries.

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Same with your idol Hawking. In his later years he is venturing into the realm of the metaphysical, even theoligical views. He also is dogmatic, refuses to acknowledge the latest discoveries that prove some of his theories as innacurate. His recent views of "God", how everything began and ends is almost laughable. It happens with everyone, the unwillingness to accept new ideas. They begin to speculate, propose ideas that can not ever be proved or disproved.

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Has to do with admitting you were "wrong". Something very difficult for a once leading physicist.

Maybe you are familiar with the difficulty of admitting to yourself you are wrong on many an occasion?

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I liked your description about space expanding and quantum entanglement . Beautifully wrote . I'm struggling with the part about the beam of light . I'll read again .
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Md as you say I'm not especially bright but I can't see any truth in your second point . An image is generated by an object and the object can only move at the speed of light . Also obviously the light from the beam is light .

Anyway my friend I think you proved your point that it's not absolutely true to say nothing travels at the speed of light .

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Md you've all the answers. How do meditation and mindfulness vary ?
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What’s Actually the Difference Between Mindfulness and Meditation?The answer is mind-blowing—and yes, pun fully intended.BY ANNIE DALY September 12, 2014

 

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The whole zen thing is really blowing up these days. It seems like everyone’s rolling out their yoga mats, Instagramming "be mindful, be here now" messages, and drinking the metaphorical (green) Kool-Aid.

 

But just because wellness has officially reached the masses doesn’t make it any less confusing. It’s complicated, majorly heady stuff—especially when it comes to nuanced concepts like the difference between meditation and mindfulness. To help you clear up the confusion once and for all and, thus, score an "OM run" at your wellness game (ba-dum-ch), we checked in with mindfulness expert Elisha Goldstein, Ph.D., author of The Now Effect and designer of the Mindfulness at Work program.

 

 

 

First things first: The main reason that people tend to confuse mindfulness with meditation is that both of them have multiple definitions, and they’re also intertwined in various ways. In other words, it's totally understandable if you only kinda sorta vaguely know the almost difference.

 

Let's Start with Meditation

“At its core, meditation is when you intentionally set aside time to do something good for yourself,” explains Goldstein. And that’s all! Really. As long as you’re doing something good for you on purpose, whatever it is that may be, that’s meditation. “For instance, there’s exercise meditation, in which you intentionally set out to exercise to clear your mind," says Goldstein. "There’s prayer meditation, when you intentionally send prayers out to the universe. There’s music meditation, where the whole purpose is to relax you, and the list goes on."

 

MORE: The 10 Stages of Trying to Meditate for the First Time (with GIFs!) 

 

So Here's Where the Mix-Up Happens

The confusion lies in the fact that one of the most well known types of meditation is mindfulness meditation. “Mindfulness is basically just being aware, and can be practiced both informally and formally—which is what many people don’t understand," says Goldstein. "When you’re practicing it informally, that means that you’re simply attempting to be more aware in everything that you do—and that mentality can be infused into pretty much anything. But the formal practice of mindfulness is mindfulness meditation."

 

So wait. What’s mindfulness meditation, then? “That’s when you intentionally pay attention to whatever is here in the moment," explains Goldstein. "The goal is to learn to be really present, to the point that when you feel yourself reacting a certain way in the moment later on, you’re so aware of the now that you're then able to take a step back, and literally change your knee-jerk reaction so you do something in a different way."

 

 

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Phew! But here's a quick nutshell summary, just because it's definitely complicated: Meditation is when you intentionally set aside time to do something that’s good for you, and there are all kinds of meditations. Mindfulness is both a general awareness of the world and a formal meditation practice. It’s two things, not one. Meditation and mindfulness overlap in mindfulness meditation, which is one of the most popular types of meditation.   

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meditation and mindfulness overlap in mindfulness mediation.

that is genius!

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Well that article used a lot of words to say nothing really. In any case, note how contemplation and problem solving are not mentioned anywhere in the article. Being aware of your surroundings and immediate present is "mindfulness" apparently. Thinking about things "now" does not mean you are in the "now." You're not necessarily in the past or future either. But you're not in the "now."

I'll leave it to tom to butcher this and continue claiming he is mindful while contemplating. Not sure why I keep even bothering to bang my head on this.