I really hope this is ironic.
propaganda wins, truth loses
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Jun 2, 2020
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I got into a debate on this with someone today. Not surprising, the guy is a teacher. You should see how they try to defend their high salaries.
Jun 2, 2020
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Ever since the late 1970's we have had to cater to teachers, giving them raise after raise and if not immediately they go on strike and get their way. It's been studied that paying them more does not make them teach better. Anyone shocked to hear of this?
It's non-stop feeling sorry for teachers. Their pay could go to $5M per year and they'd still get others to think they are underpaid. "Oh but you entrust us with your children, that should be worth everything."
However, many teachers take “disciplinary action.” This involves detention, a “chat” or public embarrassment. But when kids come home, and tell their parents what happened, nobody believes them, because they are just kids! And when the parents DO believe them and call the school, the teachers say “oh, he/she is lying. We would NEVER do something like THAT!
However, there are exeptions. My teachers in elementary were GREAT! And they really WERE underpaid! Ms. Smith, Mr. Ballatore, Mr. Ettinger, Mrs. Everts, Mrs Barela, Mrs. Defazio, they were AWESOME! (My elementary started switching for periods, so that is why I had more teachers than usual in elementary.) Some, who I won’t name, we’re kinda mean. If u remember Red 4 Ed, my teachers got a raise when I was in middle school.
Jun 2, 2020
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OK, but realize most all teachers really are effectively part-time no matter the popular consensus. A gig like tutoring you have to charge more as it's a big hassle to meet up with one or two persons, the drive time and hardly getting many available hours unlike teachers showing up for their 6 hours, 9 months per year, take 10% of time taking roll call, 5-10% quieting down the kids and the rest, a long-drawn out teaching method. School districts do not want mavericks - I tested the waters at two districts and they only want what makes them feel comfortable with.
On a per hour basis, when teachers can make $100K per year taking superfluous college courses, their pay gets to $50/hour and not all of it is really teaching, and doesn't much matter if teaching first grade or eighth grade. To do what is a pretty cushy job and take home $300 is sweet but taxpayer get stiffed with the bill.
Man, this post really opened my eyes. I mean, it's a little depressing, but we chess players aren't as smart as we think we are. Spending $100,000 collectively on just one chess teacher, $30 and $50 at a time is a little outrageous. There is no shortage of these teachers either. And despite spending so much on these teachers, we still toil below the grandmaster rank (otherwise, we'd be the wealthy teachers).
I am almost ashamed of us. We could spend this money on any number of things. We could buy that new television set, throw the biggest rager of all time, or travel the world (oh yeah, this virus). But more so, we can spend it on selfless causes as well, such as charity (looking at you ASPCA). Ultimately, though, I think the best use would be to pay it to the government in the form of taxes to spend for our collective good. K-12 teachers would be a good use of that money: They're underpaid as it is.
I wonder why so many people still think teachers are not overpaid for their part-time jobs.
Elementary school: 9 months per year times 6 hours/day. Pay up to around $100K/yr, some places much more.
College: 9 months per year times 9 hours per week. Pay up to around $150K/yr, some places much more.
Over twenty years ago I personally knew of several who worked the system, not to become better teachers but more highly paid teachers. The bunk system grants teachers more pay for more college courses taken. As if you really will teach second graders better with getting a PhD degree? You either have the knack or you don't. Oh well, no wonder the ignorance in our culture is so great. Our overpaid teachers failed us.