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Aeacb_7221 wrote:
Am I not allowed to mention Hitler?

No it's fine but considered reprehensible by the owners of online morality.

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Optimissed wrote:
Aeacb_7221 wrote:
1. I'm so glad, who would ever wanna be engaged to YOU
2. What's Godwin's Law supposed to be?

That someone will eventually be bound to mention Hitler. It's meaningless but it's meant as a put down.

The kid didn't even rise to the level of fking up with Goodwin's law because he was just repeating a random idea without any intent to suggest one thing or another.

The dissonance in here is... high.

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Aeacb_7221 wrote:
Oh, I do know a lot about technology, but unfortunately I can't browse the internet. 🙃

Of course. How silly of me happy.png.

Godwin's law, short for Godwin's law (or rule) of Nazi analogies,[1] is an Internet adage asserting that as an online discussion grows longer (regardless of topic or scope), the probability of a comparison to Nazis or Adolf Hitler approaches 100%.[2]

Promulgated by the American attorney and author Mike Godwin in 1990,[1] Godwin's law originally referred specifically to Usenet newsgroup discussions.[3] He stated that he introduced Godwin's law in 1990 as an experiment in memetics.[1] Later it was applied to any threaded online discussion, such as Internet forums, chat rooms, and comment threads, as well as to speeches, articles, and other rhetoric[4][5] where reductio ad Hitlerum occurs.

In 2012, Godwin's law became an entry in the third edition of the Oxford English Dictionary.[6] In 2021, Harvard researchers published an article showing the phenomenon does not occur with statistically meaningful frequency in Reddit discussions.[7][8]

Generalization, corollaries, and usage[edit]There are many corollaries to Godwin's law, some considered more canonical (by being adopted by Godwin himself)[2] than others. For example, there is a tradition in many newsgroups and other Internet discussion forums that, when a Hitler comparison is made, the thread is finished and whoever made the comparison loses whatever debate is in progress.[9] This principle is itself frequently referred to as Godwin's law.[10]

Godwin's law itself can be applied mistakenly or abused as a distraction, diversion or even as censorship, when fallaciously miscasting an opponent's argument as hyperbole when the comparison made by the argument is appropriate.[11] Godwin himself has also criticized the overapplication of the law, claiming that it does not articulate a fallacy, but rather is intended to reduce the frequency of inappropriate and hyperbolic comparisons. Godwin wrote that "Although deliberately framed as if it were a law of nature or of mathematics, its purpose has always been rhetorical and pedagogical: I wanted folks who glibly compared someone else to Hitler to think a bit harder about the Holocaust."[12]

In December 2015, Godwin commented on comparisons to Nazism and fascism being made by several articles between Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump, saying: "If you're thoughtful about it and show some real awareness of history, go ahead and refer to Hitler when you talk about Trump, or any other politician."[13] In August 2017, Godwin made similar remarks on social media with respect to the two previous days' Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, endorsing and encouraging comparisons of its alt-right organizers to Nazis.[14][15]

In June 2018, Godwin wrote an opinion piece in the Los Angeles Times denying the need to update or amend the rule. He rejected the idea that whoever invokes Godwin's law has lost the argument, and argued that, applied appropriately, the rule "should function less as a conversation ender and more as a conversation starter."[16]

In March 2022, Godwin wrote "you're not going to believe who this guy reminds me of" about Vladimir Putin, actually using his own rule.[17]

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Optimissed wrote:
Aeacb_7221 wrote:
Am I not allowed to mention Hitler?

No it's fine but considered reprehensible by the owners of online morality.

Has nothing to do with morality...

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Hmmm, that is true, I have a few very tall friends. What do you say their increase in height is due to?
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Why only Hitler? There were many other evil men who aren't banned.
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Thanks for posting that, Diogenes.
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Aeacb_7221 wrote:
Why only Hitler? There were many other evil men who aren't banned.

The point is it's vacuous.

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Id|ots will lean on it when they have nothing to say.

A 15 year old isn't even rising to that level though. It'd be like expecting better of a parrot.

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If I mention Stalin and Lenin no one's going to start yelling at me, right?
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I said it because it came to mind, if it hadn't I would've said anything after asking Optimissed a question.
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Aeacb_7221 wrote:
I said it because it came to mind

I know.

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Did you read my whole post? or only the part you cared about?
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Or as I sometimes think when playing a very low rated player... "they're not good enough to make that mistake yet."

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Are you saying I'm not capable of conversing with adults because I'm 15?
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Aeacb_7221 wrote:
Thanks for posting that, Diogenes.

Godwin's Law is just a funny observation, that people tend to escalate to Hitler comparisons. It's not an actual rule, but a warning to broaden perspective and not rely on hyperbole. When the comparison is apt, it's okay.

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Aeacb_7221 wrote:
Did you read my whole post? or only the part you cared about?

Considering the post in question was only two sentences long, I have good reason to label this as another parrot-like post... you're typing words, but there is no meaning behind them.

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If you want I could talk like a parrot.
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Aeacb_7221 wrote:
Hmmm, that is true, I have a few very tall friends. What do you say their increase in height is due to?

Being taller.

If I were guessing, I'd guess that it's partly better nutrition and partly maybe women find taller men more attractive so they're more likely to procreate. Just a guess though but if I'm right it sems like a viable mechanism.

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A thought just struck me but it seems rather far-fetched. If food was in short supply for many years, maybe shorter people need less food and are more likely to survive starvation. They used to reckon that in the second world war there were Japanese who survived in jungles on islands in the NW Pacific on about two leaves per day. Seriously.