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Daughter-Of-Galahop wrote:
Tucker_CheckmatedYou wrote:
#2 inb4thelock but I agree

I am sorry, but I couldn't understand the entire first half of that sentence.

They are referring to how your first message could be easily perceived as discussing politics and sensitive issues, which are presumably not allowed on this forum. Therefor, they're saying they're 'in' the thread 'b4' (before) 'the' thread is forcibly 'lock'ed by site admins.

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Here's another one that sort of explains how AI and computers work (sort of):

Imagine you’re in a room with the door closed, surrounded by books. You’re given instructions to follow. Someone outside slips a piece of paper under the door; it has a message written in Japanese, which you can’t read or understand. Your instructions say that whenever you see a certain Japanese symbol or group of symbols, you should look through the books until you find a match. The book will tell you, in parentheses, what symbols to write in response for each group you find. You copy those symbols onto a new slip of paper and slide it back under the door. To the person outside, it seems like you understand Japanese.

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#21- That makes much more sense! I want to clarify that wasn't my intention, and thank you for explaining!

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Daughter-Of-Galahop wrote:

Thought experiment #2- The Poisoned Well

There is only one well in a very remote kingdom. The well is poisoned, and anyone who drinks from it will go insane. The king is the only person who knows the well is poisoned, so he doesn't drink from it. All the citizens of the kingdom drink the water and go insane, They look at the king, the only sane one, and conclude that he is the crazy one, because he is the only one acting differently.

The question is: If everyone in the world is "crazy" except for you, are you the sane one, or is sanity just whatever the majority of people believe?

If the well is causing one specific, deterministic effect (derangement that exresses itself in one particular manner), then we need to be more specific than the general term "insanity" to determine- if, for example, the condition were boanthropy (believing oneself to be an ox, in spirit and form, as opposed to therianism), then the King would absolutely be "sane"; as bovine behavior is directly inimical to any human society. If the condition were a form of megalomania, it would be harder to say.

If the well were to be causing varied effects (more likely in a real-world scenario), the premise of the experiment would break down.

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Daughter-Of-Galahop wrote:

Here's another one that sort of explains how AI and computers work (sort of):

Imagine you’re in a room with the door closed, surrounded by books. You’re given instructions to follow. Someone outside slips a piece of paper under the door; it has a message written in Japanese, which you can’t read or understand. Your instructions say that whenever you see a certain Japanese symbol or group of symbols, you should look through the books until you find a match. The book will tell you, in parentheses, what symbols to write in response for each group you find. You copy those symbols onto a new slip of paper and slide it back under the door. To the person outside, it seems like you understand Japanese.

Does a machine/AI truly 'understand' language, or is it just following its code?