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Jun 6, 2016
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#21
Md a greater mind than mine talked about a materialist . Should we use the term a physicalist then or is that insufficient too ?
Jun 6, 2016
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#22
Sure SA at #26.
Perhaps though we can start by acknowledging that we don't know anything .
Perhaps though we can start by acknowledging that we don't know anything .
Jun 6, 2016
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#24
It just occurred to me 'tom'.. That assuming that there Is a 'God' - Then that would be another aspect, of His Scripture referenced 'Unconditional Love' - Or, the fact that you 'feel' love, all around, in the 'ether' even.. Presumably 'imho'... eminating, from the Source, from which you both, faithfully-and-repetitively, deny the existence of!
Then again.. If someone were to deny that I exist, {to-my-face of course} - Would I be 'mad' at them ? .. Of course Not! - How can one 'get mad' at someone, for that?! -- But, then again.. I Can't say, that similar, to 'J.C.'/God - That I would be 'showering' said person, with my own form of 'love'.. following, that denial. o:
Everything is nothing.
Nothing exists.
Great minds have known we know nothing.
If nothing exists, how can love exist tom?
Seems a no brainer.
Keep up the search. New knowledge is on the horizon.
Reach out and take hold.
Read this tom and decide if it descibes you. Pay particular attention to the last.
ma·te·ri·al·ism (mə-tîr′ē-ə-lĭz′əm)
n.
1. Philosophy The theory that physical matter is the only reality and that everything, including thought, feeling, mind, and will, can be explained in terms of matter and physical phenomena.
2. The theory or attitude that physical well-being and worldly possessions constitute the greatest good and highest value in life.
3. Concern for possessions or material wealth and physical comfort, especially to the exclusion of spiritual or intellectual pursuits.
Exclusion of spiritual or intellectual pursuits tom, of which you are obsessed.
A materialist accepts that his life is guided by material things. He does not question the whys and therefores, but pursues life in his quest for material things, which defines his existance.
Think that describes you?
If it does, then get off your horse, stop this nonsense about "what is or what are" and start talking about material things.
Such as your boat is faster than mine, you wear nicer clothes, your dog is bigger than mine.
Jun 6, 2016
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#28
I like that SA .
Well this love I talk of experiencing . I experience it as myself. So unless you're accepting I'm god then you're reasoning isn't fitting .
Most of us hold the position we have free will . To me anyway that's declaring ourselves to be a god .
Well this love I talk of experiencing . I experience it as myself. So unless you're accepting I'm god then you're reasoning isn't fitting .
Most of us hold the position we have free will . To me anyway that's declaring ourselves to be a god .
You are confused by the 1st part of the definition. Because of your belief of no free will, everything is natural (whatever that means, ur definition "not made by God" is absurd ) you conclude you are a materialist. Illogical and false reasoning.
tom...
We are all God,
even you in your ignorance.
Jun 6, 2016
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#32
Md 35.
Yes number 1. That's what I'm talking about ! Thank you.
I know you have a point abut love not existing . I'm just trying to wrap my head around it .
Yes number 1. That's what I'm talking about ! Thank you.
I know you have a point abut love not existing . I'm just trying to wrap my head around it .
Jun 6, 2016
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#34
'tom' The reason, you experience this 'love' as 'coming from yourself' .. Is because 'J.C.' willingly shares that aspect of Himself, to serve as a virtual 'multiplyer effect'!
Of course 'God' could play-the-role, of Any number of spontaneous 'aid-givers' if He wanted to ..{ie. as in 'All Present'..'Knowing' and 'Powerful'}.. but, if that were the case.. it would engender, a 'So What'! reaction, in most Anyone.
Far better.. for Him to delegate, that 'love' feeling, {and, the by-extension actions, that generates.. geared-to-the-situation}.. to those who are sensitized to that 'Love' - Than for Him to be, a 'Superman's- 'superman'..{if-you-will}.. In all these many smaller situations, of need!
Aside, from the Scripture refererence, to the parable, of the 'Good Samaritan' {worth looking up 'btw'!} - There's Also a {New Testament}, Scripture quote, of 'J.C.' to the effect that.. "Greater works, shall they do, who come {as in, are born}, after me"{!} -- There you have, what I term, the "multi-plyer- effect", being alluded to! o:
God is love
at least i hope so
Jun 6, 2016
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#38
Read thank you sa. Well first of all thank you for giving me your own words . It's more intimate this way .
Certainly nothing is more beautiful than love . So if you are to see God as the highest of the high then you have to see God as love .
Certainly nothing is more beautiful than love . So if you are to see God as the highest of the high then you have to see God as love .
Jun 6, 2016
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#39
god is love, fact. you can't see god as anything else, unless you want to gaze at navels, in which case i would suggest finding a hot chick with a flat tummy.