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carboninhaler

If a tree falls in a forest, and no one is around, does it make a sound?

Flow3rb0y
Yes
carboninhaler

I don't think it does

Flow3rb0y
Still a whole tree falling down
carboninhaler

but no humans are there to experience the sound

Winston1234e

We can test this by putting a camera there

Flow3rb0y
Just no one can hear it doesn’t mean it didn’t make a sound. That’s like saying if I didn’t see a certain car, it mustn’t exist
carboninhaler

and by definition, a sound is something that is perceived only by humans

Flow3rb0y
No one could here it, doesn’t mean I don’t make a sound
carboninhaler

Well, in your scenario, you are a human, and you are the one making the sound. The condition in the tree scenario is that no living things are around

carboninhaler
Flow3rb0y wrote:
Just no one can hear it doesn’t mean it didn’t make a sound. That’s like saying if I didn’t see a certain car, it mustn’t exist

existing is different from hearing. It's like you're saying 1 is the same is 3

Flow3rb0y
It isn’t?
HRIsAfraidOfMe
carboninhaler wrote:

If a tree falls in a forest, and no one is around, does it make a sound?


Yeah, cause the squirrels definitely heard that crash

Flow3rb0y
It’s quite literally impossible for there to be no life whatsoever in a forest
ChishTheFish

It makes a sound whether or not someone hears it

HRIsAfraidOfMe

If no one hears the crash, there’s no proof it happened, so it’s unknown. But since we always hear a sound when a tree falls, we assume it still makes a sound even if no one’s around. Then, maybe the tree only makes a sound if someone’s there to hear it...

BlueHairedBoy13
the tree does not make a sound.

a sound is a concept formed by your brain, because your ears detect the vibrations in the air.

it makes vibrations, both in the ground and the air, but that is not sound.

again, the sound is made up by our brains, and other creatures brains, and therefore is not truly real
Flow3rb0y
Maybe, but then we’d all be schinzos
HRIsAfraidOfMe
BlueHairedBoy13 wrote: the tree does not make a sound.
a sound is a concept formed by your brain, because your ears detect the vibrations in the air.
it makes vibrations, both in the ground and the air, but that is not sound.
again, the sound is made up by our brains, and other creatures brains, and therefore is not truly real

You're being picky about the word "sound", but the core of the OP's question can be rephrased as: "If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around, does it make a vibration?"
And then, the question still leaves room for debate...

carboninhaler
HRIsAfraidOfMe wrote:
carboninhaler wrote:

If a tree falls in a forest, and no one is around, does it make a sound?


Yeah, cause the squirrels definitely heard that crash

By no one, I mean no living thing that can sense sound