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carboninhaler
HRIsAfraidOfMe wrote:
BlueHairedBoy13 wrote: the tree does not make a sound.
a sound is a concept formed by your brain, because your ears detect the vibrations in the air.
it makes vibrations, both in the ground and the air, but that is not sound.
again, the sound is made up by our brains, and other creatures brains, and therefore is not truly real

You're being picky about the word "sound", but the core of the OP's question can be rephrased as: "If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around, does it make a vibration?"
And then, the question still leaves room for debate...

The definition of a sound is: "

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vibrations that travel through the air or another medium and can be heard when they reach a person's or animal's ear."
carboninhaler

so yes, the question is pretty much asking if it makes a vibration

carboninhaler

But there is nothing to pick up those vibrations, therefore not making it a sound. The definition says that "vibrations that CAN BE HEARD WHEN THEY REACH A PERSON'S OR ANIMAL'S EAR

carboninhaler

so if it does not reach a organism's ear, it is not a sound

HRIsAfraidOfMe

Alright, there wouldn’t be sound in the perceptual sense, BUT there would be a physical event, vibrations in the air and ground.

Falling tree exerts force on the ground and pushes through the air. By Newton’s laws, this force creates pressure waves, mechanical vibrations, in both air and earth. These vibrations occur independently of observation, making the event physically real whether or not anyone is present to hear it.

carboninhaler

hence concluding that if a tree falls in the forest and no one is around, it doesn't make a sound

carboninhaler

Yes, but then it would just be vibrations through the air, and this is not sound

carboninhaler

vibrations that travel through the air or another medium AND can be heard when they reach a person's or animal's ear."

Wnder_of_U

it does make a sound even if nobody hears it imo

carboninhaler
Wnder_of_U wrote:

it does make a sound even if nobody hears it imo

no bruh

RobloxStudioScripter
My small brain cant handle this. It will make a sound, and you can physically test this by setting up a camera next to the falling tree
RobloxStudioScripter
And watch the recording
carboninhaler

my guy, a camera is an instrument that perceives sight, not sound

Wnder_of_U

u right on that too yeah it dosent require a human or something that has life to hear it for ti to make the sound

carboninhaler

unless it also records audio, which is what I'm assuming you're saying

RobloxStudioScripter
Fine, a recorder
RobloxStudioScripter
Plus cams can record sound
carboninhaler

But then when you watch the recording, you are an organism that is perceiving the soundwaves

carboninhaler

and as I said, there can be no one near the tree falling

RobloxStudioScripter
Yes, but it also makes sound waves