We can eliminate poverty in the USA

You've gone too far, now, Denser. My feelings are really hurt. I am not a wannabe hippie. I AM a hippie.

I did vote for Bernie.

But this is what happens now, every day, in every workplace. Where do you think profits come from, thin air?

That is a key point.

Those who claim that it's somehow 'natural' to want to slob around doing nothing all day betray a shocking lack of understanding of what it is to be human.

You're not paying attention are you? 

I've worked for a living all my life but I look around at what's on offer for young people today and I can't help thinking that NOT wanting to work is actually quite a reasonable position.

I know what you do for a living, be honest - would you want to spend your entire working life flipping burgers for peanuts?

I totally understand how emotionally crushing it is to work in the corporate/industrial realm, where a person begs for a clock to move faster so they can start life anew. It would be wonderful to not only work for ourselves, but work for our family, friends, culture, and country. Imagine contributing, through our work, the means for people brighter and more gifted, funnier, happier, deeper, more compassionate, educational, etc., than ourselves to make an impact on us--to stir our passions and thoughts, and us contributing to that because we can't sit at home awaiting their arrival in our lives. How empty I would be without the artists in this world, or just those fantastic people who don't bartend or run a machine in a factory. How empty I would be without that person who I spent time with because he happened to be laid-off, but who gave me a good laugh when I needed it. Who was just around when I didn't want to be alone. Too much value is put upon the bore of working for people who have moments in their lives when they need to be away from all that and instead give their time to me or my friends when we need it most. Honestly, I don't know why our society is so envious of others? I don't know why we take others for granted so much while making a value out of merely working for ourselves? I'm absolutely nothing without others, I need them around much much more than I need them to have a job. I have friends who have jobs now, and I've had friends 30 years old who have barely had a job. But really in the end I don't give damn, I'm just glad they were/are there to spend time with me:)

mackytom wrote:

CensoredReality wrote:

Work is hard. But not working or experiencing one's own ability to influence the world is psychologically unhealthy.

You're quite right CR. But believe it or not there are people who are quite happy doing nothing. They've found their comfort zone and are content. They want and ask for very little in life. The trouble is they expect that "little" to be provided by some one else.

Then they will live on the minimum. In the very near future,40% unemployment will be the norm.

I disagree, in the near future 0% unemployment will be normal.

You can actually help society by volunteering for experimental drug tests and save a little white mouse:)

People will have the freedom to persue commerce,but others will become artists,or students,some will explore nature,or meditate and explore the meaning of life and God.Some may play chess all day,rather than waste their lives on the treadmill.

stuzzicadenti wrote:

I'm an observer, not a doer. I look at people living life and contributing to the course of human civilization and think I am meaningless and worthless by comparison. I have not experienced much, I don't know anything. My very presence on this planet is a liability. I only expend valuable resources such as oxygen and food and in return I give nothing of value. My existence is futile, I will be just as important on the day I was born as I will be on the day that I die.

Observer is good. Every exhibitionist needs their voyier.

The goal should be free housing, energy, food, education, and healthcare. That should be the pursuit of huge economies such as ours. Not endless profit and wars.

;p

If it weren't for the fact that I've had to go out every day of my life and do a stupid job moving data from A to B for some stupid corporation that sells some kinda stupid corporate shit, I'd be a GM by now for sure - I had the hunger, the talent and the motivation - but now I'm too old and I can't cut it over the board any more. Not only that, I'd be a writer, a poet and a singer-songwriter too.

My life has been stolen from me, but my vengeance will be the the laughter of my children and the end of history for my enemy.

We're getting very close.

I hope so.

But we will have to fight, fight, fight for it and there will be many more setbacks along the way I feel.

I hope to see US be the pioneer in eliminating poverty. So other nation could have a model to follow.

Fun fact.

This is a chess website.

Stop with the Bernie Sanders subtle advertising.

Fun fact. Nobody cares about your opinion.

P.S. Don't talk about Donald Trumpet because he is stupid too.