What if the Theory of Evolution is Right? (Part I)

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eddy4eva007

can you add me on skype my skype name is           edmondagboifo 

MindWalk

British spelling: "apologise." (Also, "criticise" and "realise," for instance.)

American spelling: "apologize." (Also, "criticize" and "realize," for instance.)

There is no mystery to why some people spell it one way but others the other way. Check where they're from.

British spelling: "Palaeontology."

American spelling: "Paleontology."

Again, no mystery.

I am just waiting for the same split to occur with "archaeology." The reason for the split is that the "ae" in "palaeontology" and in "archaeology" is really one of those combination-letters--the "a" and the "e" used to be written all as one letter--which can be rendered either by separating the "a" from the "e" or by simply dropping the "a" altogether. Increasingly, the "a" is being dropped from words like that. (See "aesthetic" and "esthetic.")

ProfessorProfesesen
MindWalk wrote:
hapless_fool wrote:

Elroch keeps arging with people who, if they existed at all, died at least 500 years ago.

Elroch keeps arguing with ProfessorProfesesen. If he died at least 500 years ago, we should all be very interested in the evidence of life after death that he provides by posting his thoughts in this thread.

I've never mentioned life after death. And god, only after someone posted something about a vibrator. 

If you guys don't wanna discuss anything about the Fundamentals, fine by me. We can talk about phenotypes etc

In any case I don't know what kind of life you mean. The one that is used in biology or  the humanities.

pawnwhacker

   MW, I am fully aware of the variations between British and American spelling. The behaviour (or is it behavior?) of that bloke was rude and erroneous. That's what prompted me to give him a faux critique in return.

   I have a Franklin Talking Dictionary. I've had it since the 80ies. The batteries last "forever". The fact that it "talks" is very convenient. Ever learn a new word and then later discover that your pronunciation is flawed?

   I just typed in "behavior". Bingo. Then I typed in "behaviour". It shows on the display "Correcting" and it reverts to "behavior". I think I'm going to ship it across the pond to RG1951...it'll drive him crazy (lol).

pawnwhacker

   I was in the second grade. I was a typical fun-loving boy...a little rascal. School work was dreary. One day, the nun asked me: "Spell chair". I could not. Then she said: Spell ch. I could not. Exasperated, she said: "Spell air." Nope. Couldn't do it. Nope, nope, nope!!!

    She took me by the ear and had me stand in a corner at the front of the class. After the class had finished, she told me: "You aren't going home. You're going to the convent where I'll pack a bag, Then I'm going to take you to reform school."

   Reform school! That was a prison for wayward boys. All the way to the convent my knees were knocking and my hands were trembling (ok, perhaps not...but I need to add a bit of drama). When we arrived, she looked at me sternly: "I'm going to give you one more chance. Don't let me down. Now go home and study. I hope you've learned your lesson."

   Indeed I had! I ran all the way home, never looking back (that pillar of salt thing). From then on, I always won the spelling bees.

einstein99

Try some melatonin PW. Also the correct mixture of calcium and magnesium works for me.

Royale-Prince
The_Ghostess_Lola wrote:

Royal-Prince ?....how long did of all these take to write ? I mean, you released them like 100 minutes ago....all at the same time. You musta really given this alotta thought....and then prewrote them then pasted them in.

I'm here w/ my friend Kitty. We just got back from being out and we read your stuff 2gether just now. Interesting. Kitty says you talk sensitive and I agree.

Yes, I was looking the pages, searching for comments directed to me and typing my answer in Microsoft Word at same time. Then I just copied here when it was over.

Thanks for the compliment (being sensitive)! I'm glad you and Kitty found it interesting. We could talk a entire day about this all and it wouldn't be enough. So many things to see, study and observe! A whole "new World"... 

Royale-Prince
Pulpofeira wrote:

He's a nice guy.

Thank you, my friend. You are the nice one here!

Royale-Prince
hapless_fool wrote:

Royale-Prince, thank you for your kind words.

For purposes of this discussion I have been siding with the Catholics, but not because I'm Catholic. I have no argument with those outside orthodox Christianity. I would not argue from, say, a Hindu point of view because I don't understand it.

Anyway, this thread is not and has never been about evolution. It is about New Atheism vs the rest of the world. It is about radical materialism vs rational coherence. It is about humanity as rational beings vs humanity as advanced robotics.

Thanks to you too. I found the name of my religion in English, it's just "Spiritism". We are Christians, not Hindus, but let's not change the Forum topic... I agree with things you are saying here. Allow me to use some of your arguments in my answer to MindWalk. See you.

Royale-Prince

pawnwhacker: nice post about the black holes. Strange to think that it's formed from the "death" of a star. What a banquet to any physical! I don't deal with anything linked with mathematics or physics, but it's really cool.

Now we have this travel to Mars, with humans. The only problem is that is a one way travel. No come back... Between the chosen (until now) is a brazilian teacher (a woman). Well, if she wants to go... it's her life. 

Royale-Prince

MindWalk: I'm separating some names to mention to you. Give me a bit more time to answer you, ok? but I'm going to do it. 

pawnwhacker
einstein99 wrote:

Try some melatonin PW. Also the correct mixture of calcium and magnesium works for me.

    Thanks. I've tried it and It doesn't work for me. 

pawnwhacker
Royale-Prince wrote:

pawnwhacker: nice post about the black holes. Strange to think that it's formed from the "death" of a star. What a banquet to any physical! I don't deal with anything linked with mathematics or physics, but it's really cool.

Now we have this travel to Mars, with humans. The only problem is that is a one way travel. No come back... Between the chosen (until now) is a brazilian teacher (a woman). Well, if she wants to go... it's her life. 

   Yes, it is interesting...going to Mars. I am waiting until we have a Starship like the Enterprise. Smile

Espero que tudo esteja bem com você.

Royale-Prince
pawnwhacker wrote:
Royale-Prince wrote:

pawnwhacker: nice post about the black holes. Strange to think that it's formed from the "death" of a star. What a banquet to any physical! I don't deal with anything linked with mathematics or physics, but it's really cool.

Now we have this travel to Mars, with humans. The only problem is that is a one way travel. No come back... Between the chosen (until now) is a brazilian teacher (a woman). Well, if she wants to go... it's her life. 

   Yes, it is interesting...going to Mars. I am waiting until we have a Starship like the Enterprise. 

Espero que tudo esteja bem com você.

That's true! Only when we have something more developed allowing us to come home again...

Estou bem sim, e com você? Aliás, você está escrevendo muito bem em Português! É raro ver isso... 

pawnwhacker

   For other readers, he just said: "I am well yes, and with you? In fact, you're writing very well in Portuguese! It is rare to see this ..."

   My response: Estamos adquirindo-nos muita neve onde sou, neste tempo. Espero que você esteja gostando do seu tempo cheio de sol.

pawnwhacker

_Number_6:

   Thanks for those two links concerning black holes...very insightful. Since our universe is expanding (red shift), and unless I am mistaken, it seems to me that it may have expanded beyond the possibility of a collapse.

   I don't know that that is true. Yet either an oscillating universe or black holes that draw matter in and later spew it out... Anyway, this black hole is 18 billion times larger than our sun! And there are even bigger ones.

   Then, too, there had been talk about the Cerne particle accelerator having the potential to create a small black hole that could destroy our Earth. I don't know if this was wild speculation or if there was a basis.

   Meanwhile, we have x (the unknown). Although I do realize that most people think x is known. I think I would make a better mathematician than priest.

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The collapsing star would reach a stage at which its inside can shrink no further, because the loops cannot be compressed into anything smaller, and in fact they would exert an outward pressure that theorists call a quantum bounce, transforming a black hole into a white hole. Rather than being shrouded by a true, eternal event horizon, the event would be concealed by a temporary 'apparent horizon', says Rovelli. (Theoretical physicist Stephen Hawking of the University of Cambridge, UK, has recently suggested that true event horizons would be incompatible with quantum physics.)

Other loop-quantum theorists have made similar calculations for cases in which it is not just a star that is collapsing but an entire universe23. They found that the universe could bounce back, and suggested that our own Universe’s Big Bang could in fact have been such a ‘big bounce’. Rovelli and Haggard have now shown that the quantum bounce does not require an entire universe to collapse at once. “We think this is a possible picture,” says Rovelli. “We have found that the [transformation] process can be completely contained in a limited region of space-time. Everything outside behaves following the classical Einstein equations.”

_Number_6
pawnwhacker wrote:

_Number_6:

   Thanks for those two links concerning black holes...very insightful. Since our universe is expanding (red shift), and unless I am mistaken, it seems to me that it may have expanded beyond the possibility of a collapse.

   I don't know that that is true. Yet either an oscillating universe or black holes that draw matter in and later spew it out... Anyway, this black hole is 18 billion times larger than our sun! And there are even bigger ones.

   Then, too, there had been talk about the Cerne paticle accelerator having the potential to create a small black hole that could destroy our Earth. I don't know if this was wild speculation or if there was a basis.

   Meanwhile, we have x (the unknown). Although I do realize that most people think x is known. I think I would make a better mathematician than priest.

 

Expanding and accelerating.  I don't think black holes will reverse that.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerating_universe

I like that 18 billion M ☉ isn't that big.

Not Earth killers, but micro-black holes are theoretically possible:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro_black_hole

With black holes F = G \frac{m_1 m_2}{r^2}\ still applies.

Fifthelement

I am interested in these question.A child dies.What will he miss ?.A young man dies.What will he miss ?.An old man dies.What will he miss ?.

Perhaps these are the philosphical question for the young man and the old man.But not for the kid.

Any opinion ?

pawnwhacker

   What makes you assume that any of them will miss anything because, afterall, they are dead?

ProfessorProfesesen

Do Atheists  want a god that is predictable and testable?

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