Why evolution is bogus.

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Peter-Pepper
Ford_1 wrote:

Sciene Daily says a scientific method is baised on "the collection of data through obeservation and experimentation..."  CAN YOU GIVE ME SOME OBSERVABLE EVIDENCE THAT EVOLUTION IS TRUE-SOMETHING I DON'T HAVE TO RECEIVE BY FAITH???

So unless you can see something with your own eyes, you do not believe in it?

Have you ever been to Australia?  Do you believe that it exists?

SocialPanda

People who believe that Borislav Ivanov was not cheating should not be allowed to vote

Irontiger
Peter-Pepper wrote:
Ford_1 wrote:

Sciene Daily says a scientific method is baised on "the collection of data through obeservation and experimentation..."  CAN YOU GIVE ME SOME OBSERVABLE EVIDENCE THAT EVOLUTION IS TRUE-SOMETHING I DON'T HAVE TO RECEIVE BY FAITH???

So unless you can see something with your own eyes, you do not believe in it?

Have you ever been to Australia?  Do you believe that it exists?

I hope he wasn't using "observable" in that meaning.

But who knows...

SocialPanda
Peter-Pepper wrote:
Ford_1 wrote:

Sciene Daily says a scientific method is baised on "the collection of data through obeservation and experimentation..."  CAN YOU GIVE ME SOME OBSERVABLE EVIDENCE THAT EVOLUTION IS TRUE-SOMETHING I DON'T HAVE TO RECEIVE BY FAITH???

So unless you can see something with your own eyes, you do not believe in it?

Have you ever been to Australia?  Do you believe that it exists?

I had heard rumours that Wyoming doesn´t exist.

Ziryab
socialista wrote:
Peter-Pepper wrote:
Ford_1 wrote:

Sciene Daily says a scientific method is baised on "the collection of data through obeservation and experimentation..."  CAN YOU GIVE ME SOME OBSERVABLE EVIDENCE THAT EVOLUTION IS TRUE-SOMETHING I DON'T HAVE TO RECEIVE BY FAITH???

So unless you can see something with your own eyes, you do not believe in it?

Have you ever been to Australia?  Do you believe that it exists?

I had heard rumours that Wyoming doesn´t exist.

I've been there. It doesn't.

Peter-Pepper
Irontiger wrote:
Peter-Pepper wrote:
Ford_1 wrote:

Sciene Daily says a scientific method is baised on "the collection of data through obeservation and experimentation..."  CAN YOU GIVE ME SOME OBSERVABLE EVIDENCE THAT EVOLUTION IS TRUE-SOMETHING I DON'T HAVE TO RECEIVE BY FAITH???

So unless you can see something with your own eyes, you do not believe in it?

Have you ever been to Australia?  Do you believe that it exists?

I hope he wasn't using "observable" in that meaning.

But who knows...

 

I wonder if he understands that evolution takes too long to observe in a YouTube video.

Irontiger
Ziryab wrote:
socialista wrote:

I had heard rumours that Wyoming doesn´t exist.

I've been there. It doesn't.

I guess I won't have to refund you hip, each pays for his own, right ?

 

Ford_1
Peter-Pepper wrote:
Ford_1 wrote:

Sciene Daily says a scientific method is baised on "the collection of data through obeservation and experimentation..."  CAN YOU GIVE ME SOME OBSERVABLE EVIDENCE THAT EVOLUTION IS TRUE-SOMETHING I DON'T HAVE TO RECEIVE BY FAITH???

So unless you can see something with your own eyes, you do not believe in it?

Have you ever been to Australia?  Do you believe that it exists?

I have never been to Australia and I do have FAITH that it exists, I know people that live there. No one has EVER OBSERVED EVOLUTION!!!

trysts

I think the theory of evolution is brilliant! Very, very perceptive:)

In my view, as long as religions have magical beings, objects, and events in their beliefs then they don't value empiricism as highly as science does. Science is entirely based upon empiricism for facts--"the truth of the matter". Religion is entirely based upon imagination and emotion for facts--the "Truth". Logic tries to guide thinking for a consistent, non-contadictory view of the world. Faith focuses upon the strength of one's will to accept inconsistencies and contradictions for an eternal life in an imaginary world. It's Plato's "analogy of the cave" and The Matrix' "red or blue pill":)

Irontiger
Ford_1 wrote:
Peter-Pepper wrote:
Ford_1 wrote:

Sciene Daily says a scientific method is baised on "the collection of data through obeservation and experimentation..."  CAN YOU GIVE ME SOME OBSERVABLE EVIDENCE THAT EVOLUTION IS TRUE-SOMETHING I DON'T HAVE TO RECEIVE BY FAITH???

So unless you can see something with your own eyes, you do not believe in it?

Have you ever been to Australia?  Do you believe that it exists?

I have never been to Australia and I do have FAITH that it exists, I know people that live there. No one has EVER OBSERVED EVOLUTION!!!

Any comments about the pepper moth, or the annual flu shot ?

Or are you conveniently ignoring them ?

Irontiger
trysts wrote:

I think the theory of evolution is brilliant! Very, very perceptive:)

In my view, as long as religions have magical beings, objects, and events in their beliefs then they don't value empiricism as highly as science does. Science is entirely based upon empiricism for facts--"the truth of the matter". Religion is entirely based upon imagination and emotion for facts--the "Truth". Logic tries to guide thinking for a consistent, non-contadictory view of the world. Faith focuses upon the strength of one's will to accept inconsistencies and contradictions for an eternal life in an imaginary world. It's Plato's "analogy of the cave" and The Matrix' "red or blue pill":)

Peter-Pepper
Ford_1 wrote:
I have never been to Australia and I do have FAITH that it exists, I know people that live there.

So, in the absence of direct personal experience, you are relying on other, overwhelming evidence that it exists.  Like the overwhelming evidence that evolution is true.

Ford_1 wrote:

No one has EVER OBSERVED EVOLUTION!!!

Even if it were a process which is not observable during the human lifetime (which is not the case; see the moths example), that does not make it not true.  You just have to use other forms of evidence.  And there are plenty.

trysts

@IrontigerLaughing

BMeck

We have observed evolution...

rooperi

'Yeah, trysts, you are correct.

I think when people argue about stuff, you get 3 types af argument:

  • emotional vs emotional
  • emotional vs logical
  • logical vs logical

The first 2 can never be resolved  to the satisfaction of both parties. Only in the last case is there a chance that an argument can be 'won'

Ford_1
trysts wrote:

I think the theory of evolution is brilliant! Very, very perceptive:)

In my view, as long as religions have magical beings, objects, and events in their beliefs then they don't value empiricism as highly as science does. Science is entirely based upon empiricism for facts--"the truth of the matter". Religion is entirely based upon imagination and emotion for facts--the "Truth". Logic tries to guide thinking for a consistent, non-contadictory view of the world. Faith focuses upon the strength of one's will to accept inconsistencies and contradictions for an eternal life in an imaginary world. It's Plato's "analogy of the cave" and The Matrix' "red or blue pill":)

A fairy tale: A girl kisses a frog and it turns into a prince. Add millions of years and you have evolution. Yes, your relilgion is based entirely upon imagination and emotion for your "truth". I'm interested in proof not failed science. Interesting that you should bring up eternal life.

Ford_1
BMeck wrote:

We have observed evolution...

What have you observed???

SocialPanda

Just follow you heart, if you ask sincerely, probably in your dreams you will get the answer.

(I guess that there´s people that prefer that type of investigation, since it doesn´t require serious effort)

trysts
Ford_1 wrote:
 

A fairy tale: A girl kisses a frog and it turns into a prince. Add millions of years and you have evolution. Yes, your relilgion is based entirely upon imagination and emotion for your "truth". I'm interested in proof not failed science. Interesting that you should bring up eternal life.

I'm not sure if I follow you? The theory of evolution is pretty darn interesting, but of course it has not been able to account for human beings yet. But it is a new theory compared with the Abrahamic religion's theory of the origins of human beings, and is much more understandable than the Abrahamic religion's view, for me at least:)

trysts
rooperi wrote:

I think when people argue about stuff, you get 3 types af argument:

emotional vs emotional emotional vs logical logical vs logical

The first 2 can never be resolved  to the satisfaction of both parties. Only in the last case is there a chance that an argument can be 'won'

I agree, rooperi:)

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