world war 2

what you said about the french is absolutely true, and that is why we repaid it by liberating it from the nazis

Whoa! Are you actually trying to say that India benefitted from foreign rule?! Our country was civilised when you guys were getting conned into carrying huge rocks from wales to salisbury plain to pile up into a huge pile. We were the pioneers in science and technology, and we were the only people who managed to get rid of Alexander the Great. Had it not been for the millenium of foreign rule, today we would have been the greatest nation on the planet. Why? Because we survived as a culture.

As for the Yanks empathising with us, remember that you were only Brits who didn't like other Brits. You didn't have to undergo 200 years of state-sponsored racism and a continuous drain of wealth. Your only grouse was the fact that you couldn't hire more slaves to do your work and didn't want to pay taxes without being able to talk to the king. The real Americans were the guys who you almost eliminated through centuries of genocide.

It seems that those can't respond  to reasoned argument or truth always hide behind nationalism, insult, myth and selfdecite. The two countries I admire the most and they have done no favours for my little country are England and the USA.  How did a small tribe of germans eventually go out to rule the largest empire in the world? They did something right didn't they! 

 Despite all its faults the USA has been a power of good in the world but it is too soon for its detractors to realise and appreciate this.  In 500 years time they will,  provided we are all here of course.  Yes, we know all about the great civil legacies  of China and India, but both civilizations were left behind just as the Egyptian and Roman Civilizations were.  It may well be their turn again, but guess what you will be using is the english language to get by with just as latin was for centuries the lingua franca of Europe .  Personally I would prefer the world hegemony of the USA to that of China or India any day.

perhaps the british knew that, and took over your country so you wouldn't be the greatest nation on the planet. without british rule, you probably wouldn't know how to speak english.after all, the language comes from england. Americans did not consider themselves british because there were laws passed affecting americans, but they did not have any voice in parliment. if india was destined to be the most powerful nation, why didn't you have a revolution with it? it appears that america was more powerful at the time because we were able to win the american revolution almost 200 years before india got its independence. Yet after the american revolution, we made friend with the british and helped them win in both world wars.

england and wales are not countries; they are states/provinces/territories of the nation of the unutes kingdom of great britian and northern ireland

calvinhobbesliker wrote: england and wales are not countries; they are states/provinces/territories of the nation of the unutes kingdom of great britian and northern ireland

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No, they are countries and have certain devolved powers like raising their own taxes. The United Kingdom of Great Britian and Northern Ireland is just a Union of these countries.

Oh and the US and Britian didn't really win the war, most of the fighting was done on the Eastern front between the USSR and the Nazis, Stalin done more to beat the Nazis than Roosevelt and Churchill put together. But never let the facts get in the way of a good story eh?

once again, the us gave supplies to england and russia. if not for the lend-lease acts, russian might not have won

ThomasK wrote:

It seems that those can't respond  to reasoned argument or truth always hide behind nationalism, insult, myth and selfdecite. The two countries I admire the most and they have done no favours for my little country are England and the USA.  How did a small tribe of germans eventually go out to rule the largest empire in the world? They did something right didn't they! 

 Despite all its faults the USA has been a power of good in the world but it is too soon for its detractors to realise and appreciate this.  In 500 years time they will,  provided we are all here of course.  Yes, we know all about the great civil legacies  of China and India, but both civilizations were left behind just as the Egyptian and Roman Civilizations were.  It may well be their turn again, but guess what you will be using is the english language to get by with just as latin was for centuries the lingua franca of Europe .  Personally I would prefer the world hegemony of the USA to that of China or India any day.

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A small tribe of Germans? You gotta be kidding me. The language may have evolved from Germanic speaking people but the history of the Island is littered with all sorts of cross-migration. It really is a "mongrel nation".

 America has actually done very little for the world, hegemonic powers serve their own self-interests. The great American Empire is crumbling before our very eyes, I'd prefer no hegemonic domination than any particular one mate.

america doesn't have an empire and it never will. we won't invade countries unless it's an act of defense. in the history of america, we only attacked if we were being attacked or in danger of being attacked

calvinhobbesliker wrote: america doesn't have an empire and it never will. we won't invade countries unless it's an act of defense. in the history of america, we only attacked if we were being attacked or in danger of being attacked

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Oh the irony, like Iraq was ever a threat to America. Same with many escapades in Central and Southern America to install puppet governments that support American fee market interests.

yes it was, the united states wants to get rid of terrorists. can you give me a link for the latin america invasions?

the terrorists attacked the twin towers and the pentagon on 9 11

calvinhobbesliker wrote: america doesn't have an empire and it never will. we won't invade countries unless it's an act of defense. in the history of america, we only attacked if we were being attacked or in danger of being attacked

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 You might like to try explaining Grenada then. A very interesting little invasion. It is currently the only war (apart from the civil war) that the USA has started, fought and finished without outside aid.

 So terrorists (mostly from Saudi Arabia) attacked America and that made it all right to inavde Iraq? Who had no WMD's or harboured terrorists, in fact there was little to no terrorist activity in Iraq until the US invaded it.

The invasion of Grenada is one example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_Grenada

we went to war to retaliate the illegal execution of the prime minister

iraq also invaded kuwait

calvinhobbesliker wrote: we went to war to retaliate the illegal execution of the prime minister

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I suspect there was another reason. There are many illegal executions, even of prime ministers and presidents, but the USA does not stir if it has no other interest in the country concerned.

Yes, Iraq invaded uwait in 1990 in which the US already went to war in the first Gulf War.

Nothing to do with the current war. I'd also like to add that there's a distinction in defending against terrorism (non-affiliated with states) and attacking nation states. Sadam had neither the technology or man power to ever threaten America and was never in his interests to do so. It was an act of aggression and had nothing whatsoever to do with defending America. One could even argue it's made their position even more vulnerable to attack.

Lots of Pime Ministers have been assasinated over the years, why didn't America go to war in all those countries? The only reason America invaded Grenada, as well as supporting various right-wing leaders such as Pinochet in Chile is because they would happily serve Americans free market interests. Same reason why America has so suddenly been concerned with Venezuela because Chavez actually wants to distribute the wealth from it's oil fields among the Venezuelan people and not ship it all to America (imagine that). Otherwise, America wouldn't give a damn about the Venezuelan government.

if sudam didn't have interest, who staged 9 11? What ca you expect, if countries you traded with stopped trading with ireland, what would ireland do?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States-Venezuela_relations

according to this, venezuela is still trading with america