Chess and Life Relations

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@ thejackbauer

Very Good! you are thinking in the Right direction!!

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manavendra wrote:

@ thejackbauer

Very Good! you are thinking in the Right direction, the Right side of Chess!!


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Bobby Fischer: Game of the Century

In this game, Fischer (playing Black) demonstrates noteworthy innovation and improvisation. Byrne (playing White), after a standard opening, makes a seemingly minor mistake on move 11, losing tempo by moving the same piece twice. Fischer pounces, with brilliant sacrificial play, culminating in an incredible queen sacrifice on move 17. Byrne captures the queen, but Fischer gets far too much material for it – a rook, two bishops, and a pawn. At the end, Fischer's pieces coordinate to force checkmate, while Byrne's queen sits, helpless, at the other end of the board.

Graham Burgess, John Nunn, and John Emms suggest three lessons to be learned from this game, which can be summarized as follows:

  • In general, don't waste time by moving the same piece twice in an opening; get your other pieces developed first;
  • Material sacrifices are likely to be effective if your opponent's king is still in the middle and a central file is open;
  • Even at 13, Fischer was a player to be reckoned with.
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Very interesting from the other side of our world.....I too equate life with the game of chess.....My piece is the queen....she can get all around the world if she is careful in her moves....in the work I often comment how we are like pieces on a chess board....The queen is there to protect her King first and formost...could be her husband, boss, boyfriend.....  and she also protects the other members of her team....and yes pawns can move up in rank and be promoted if they work smart....nice to see someone who see it the way I do...

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Love (Queen) is just a word until someone comes along and gives it meaning. So, what do you suggest, King should castle short or long?

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Don't see my previous reply on 6/8....

I can relate to your theory and feel the same....there's some battles of the minds trying to prove you wrong...but there's no wrong or right...either you agree or don't....I think it's a great analogy of life....

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What I get from this, is that family and friends are nothing more than tools to be used as necessary, to protect ourselves and further our goals. If one views life as a constant struggle to outmanuever, outwit, and ultimately cause harm to the people around you, then this may be an apt analogy. Speaking solely for myself, I don't view life as an adversarial conflict. I do appreciate the effort you put into formulating your "theory".

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Well I see there is a flip side to this theory (and many others as this forum progresses) ....good or bad I can see both sides...

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sugarplum1950 wrote:

Well I see there is a flip side to this theory (and many others as this forum progresses) ....good or bad I can see both sides...


Even though manavendra has proven he's light-hearted about it,  did you see the pretentious and silly side of his ever-flipping theory?Laughing

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We do not want to change the right people.

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We do not want to change(castle) the right people(pieces).


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LaughingYou are in love with your "theory/analogy/metaphor/bizarre".

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Yes, I do love my "theory/analogy/metaphor/bizarre". What is life without relationships? Seeing human life so beautifully rendered, I sometimes wonder, is it worth searching for Nature's blunder?

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Yes, I do love my "theory/analogy/metaphor/bizarre". What is life without relationships? Seeing human life so beautifully rendered, I sometimes wonder, is it worth searching for Nature's blunder?


It appears "Nature's blunder" are humans themselvesLaughing

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trysts wrote:
manavendra wrote:

Yes, I do love my "theory/analogy/metaphor/bizarre". What is life without relationships? Seeing human life so beautifully rendered, I sometimes wonder, is it worth searching for Nature's blunder?


It appears "Nature's blunder" are humans themselves


It appears Chess was invented by humans, not by Nature.

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you are smoking the good stuff my brother and thats what is most important!Smile

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LoveandPain wrote:

you are smoking the good stuff my brother and thats what is most important!


Thinking...
 Opening database: 265053 book positions.
 In this position, there is no book move.

Time = 5.0 Rate=731284 Nodes=[3337218/320035/3657253] GenCnt=5995628
Eval=[747209/1424480] RptCnt=209 NullCut=44974 FutlCut=815994
Ext: Chk=162045 Recap=19538 Pawn=18918 OneRep=14030 Horz=3291 Mate=0 KThrt=25977
Material=[3600/3600 : 4300/4400] Lazy=[283/258] MaxPosnScore=[377/315]
Hash: Success=3% Collision=99% Pawn=73%

white  KQkq
r . b q k b n r
p p p p . p p p
. . n . . . . .
. . . . . . . .
. . B p P . . .
. . . . . . . .
P P P . . P P P
R N B Q K . N R

My move is : exd4
White (4) :

Brother (Bishop), do you mean to say that it's time now to Quit Smoking.

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This is a very patriachal analogy. firstly i would choose to be the queen. Maybe because I'm a mother and always seem to be running about after people. I cannot view the pawns as children because they are easily sacraficed. I think they are more likely to be friends or distant relatives. If they work hard they can get promoted and be very good friends!! The king would be a child. Vulnerable and slow.

Its an interesting analogy though

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Thanks for your thoughtful feedback. Traditionally, King and Queen were mostly man and women, respectively, hence this theory may sound patriarchal as Chess was invented during that period. Also, Chess is like war, a battle in progress, so i equated pawns with the children, considering olden days when children were trained from childhood to become warriors.

I like your idea to consider pawns as friends or distant relatives in today's modern times. However, I don't think friends or distant relatives would like themselves to be called or eqated to minor pieces. Moreover, friends and distant relatives may not always be suitable candidate for pawn promotion. You don't want anyone to inherit your kingdom other than your own children.

Also, since there are total 8 pawns belonging to one side, the theory may be modified to designate some of the Queen's side pawns as friends or distant relatives, if you share a strong bond with them.Smile

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I learn't playing Chess when I was 8, but i played only for short span, with intermittant gaps of many years. Only recently, I have become a Chessholic. I mean Chess and Life, intermixed so beautifully by interpolating the Chess rules, strategies, tacts, positions, ranks, files, etc.

I have come up with one, would be interesting theory. Life is made of people, same as Chess is made of Chessmen. Like in Life relationships between different people, same are relationships between Chessmen on the Chess Board. Now, if you were to pick any "one" Chessman, which piece would you choose. I know, this question maybe debatable, but I strongly vote that most of us would choose the "King".

Taking the popular assumption of the "King" being the chosen piece in all further interpolations of the Chess relationships, how is the King related to the other Chessmen? Lets, also take the common man in Life, he is a father, a brother, a friend, a family man, a team player, etc., almost exponentially large number of relationships. Taking all the strongest relationships, I want to discuss the following Chess and Life relations.

Okay, now as a King, what is your relationship with your Queen, extrapolating from both Chess and Life, she can be your wife, or maybe your girlfriend? What about the rook, lets take him as your big bother, and the Bishop as your younger brother, including friends. Also, taking into account, the distribution of men and women in Life, I further extrapolate to take Kinght as your sister, under the rule of Chess Board being divided into two equal halves, King's Side and Queen's side. So, same relations also exist on the Queen's side viz, queen side's rook and bishop being her elder and younger brother respectively, and queen side knight being her sister.

All these being taken into account, lets interpolate the sacrificial nature of Chess and Life. Would you sacrifice your Queen if she is your wife or girlfriend, depending on how you interpolate? How would you relate to Rook, would you give him a opportunity to castle? How would you relate to Kinght, protecting her or maybe strategic relationship, oftens requires good team play, as is in most of the cases.

Most of the top-rated players play very protective and closely-guarded games most of the time, piece for piece, well balanced manner. Why is that early level sacrifice of any piece or any Life's relation is considered a risky choice? How can we quantify the King's decision to gambit or not?

I would further add the pawns, a very important piece in Chess, and we all know who are they?

Children

A pawn can be promoted to any rank of his Choice!!

Such a theory might seem non-existant for there are very large extrapolations taken, but these will provide vital statistics for the improvement of Artificial Intelligence, SETI, and many other projects in progress, about understanding the Nature of Life, the source of (Artificial) Intelligence!!


it is easier to take these relationships into account when you put it that way. i dont like the pawns as children though..is it possible to come up with a different notion for them..maybe your pets or something