Auto-resign system in rapid is anti-chess

Sort:
Nik936

How is this even a thing - auto resign system in rapid games? How disgusting it is that I am not allowed to think my moves over in the opening? I am far from being a master and knowing any opening theory, but i started liking crawling with my mind deeply into the position hence I moved to rapid chess. That is the way i study the game. I also am not interested in opening theory just yet, I still like discovering chess in general.

But recently I decided to play a rapid arena just for extra league points and found out that I am forcefully not allowed to get in the time-scramble because of that auto resign system. I'm sorry, but I choose slower time controls not to bullet my moves out, I want to think and I want to think slowly and gradually. And how annoying is that bar that informates you that you have to make move to game not to be auto lost. I lost a couple of games single handedly because I was genuenily shoked and annoyed by that little bar, and I kept losing because of knowledge that someone is making me move faster so I rushed moves. I may have even moved as fast as the system wants me to, but the fact that I do not have the alternative and that I am being notified in such an annoying way just made me white-hot. I literally had to give up my calculations because of that sign. I like thinking for log periods of time, my favourite players also do (Alexander Grischuk for example) so why am I not allowed to?! This is quite literally anti-chess.

 

Yeah, on some other sites there is also such system, but guess what: it starts working only if you get offline on your move.

justbefair
Nik936 wrote:

How is this even a thing - auto resign system in rapid games? How disgusting it is that I am not allowed to think my moves over in the opening? I am far from being a master and knowing any opening theory, but i started liking crawling with my mind deeply into the position hence I moved to rapid chess. That is the way i study the game. I also am not interested in opening theory just yet, I still like discovering chess in general.

But recently I decided to play a rapid arena just for extra league points and found out that I am forcefully not allowed to get in the time-scramble because of that auto resign system. I'm sorry, but I choose slower time controls not to bullet my moves out, I want to think and I want to think slowly and gradually. And how annoying is that bar that informates you that you have to make move to game not to be auto lost. I lost a couple of games single handedly because I was genuenily shoked and annoyed by that little bar, and I kept losing because of knowledge that someone is making me move faster so I rushed moves. I may have even moved as fast as the system wants me to, but the fact that I do not have the alternative and that I am being notified in such an annoying way just made me white-hot. I literally had to give up my calculations because of that sign. I like thinking for log periods of time, my favourite players also do (Alexander Grischuk for example) so why am I not allowed to?! This is quite literally anti-chess.

 

Yeah, on some other sites there is also such system, but guess what: it starts working only if you get offline on your move.

Hmm. The abandonment in the first ten moves only happens if you use 50% of the time control on one move.

So in a 10 minute game, that is a 5 minute limit on any one move in the first ten.

Is that what you are complaining about?

Or perhaps the first move limit of 55 seconds in rapid games?

https://support.chess.com/article/338-how-does-game-abandonment-work

Neither seems onerous to me and I am very often in time trouble.

Nik936
justbefair wrote:
 

Hmm. The abandonment in the first ten moves only happens if you use 50% of the time control on one move.

So that is a 5 minute limit on one move in the first ten.

Is that what you are complaining about?

Or perhaps the first move limit of 55 seconds in rapid games.

https://support.chess.com/article/338-how-does-game-abandonment-work

It either was move 10 and I had 8:44 on the clock and was thinking only for 9 seconds or it was move nine of the same game and I was thinking for 26 seconds on that move. My opponent was getting the same notifications by the way. Here is the game code if you wonder: 33947459519. After these moves nine and ten I stopped spending time on moves because of this annoying notification as you can see and was still being afraid of it in the endgame where i clearly lost any initiative because of the rush I was playing in. Game ended and I still had 6 minutes on the clock and my opponent had 5 so we were far from playing a real rapid game. Not that he is a lot better than me, I had draws from position of power with 200-higher rated players and i am 1700 in rapid on lich*ss.

justbefair

Well, based on that game score, you weren't close to an abandonment because of long moves.

/ I can only think that you were getting disconnected.

Nik936
justbefair wrote:

Well, based on that game score, you weren't close to an abandonment because of long moves.

 

/ I can only think that you were getting disconnected.

My connection is stable and great and I never get this in regular games, only in arenas. My opponents were getting same notifications every game. I was also just playing 3+0 arena apparently and all of my opps were getting the same notification after 10-15 seconds of thinking. Neither me nor my opponents ever get these notifications is regular games. But arenas? Yes we do, and we do a lot!

Closed_username1234

Are you referring to aborting a game? There's no such thing as an auto-resignation.

In my experience, I've never had a game abort later than move 1. When both sides make the first moves, the abort button should turn into a resign button. 

justbefair

Well if it happens again, please take a screenshot and send it to support@chess.com.

Boombangboi

I noticed this too.  The auto-resign in arenas is much faster than regular games.  It makes sense to a degree, since your opponent is less likely to win the arena if they're stuck in a game with a thinking opponent for too long.  Auto resign is probably not the best solution to this, though- and the problem is really the arena format.

Martin_Stahl
Boombangboi wrote:

I noticed this too.  The auto-resign in arenas is much faster than regular games.  It makes sense to a degree, since your opponent is less likely to win the arena if they're stuck in a game with a thinking opponent for too long.  Auto resign is probably not the best solution to this, though- and the problem is really the arena format.

 

I think those auto resign messages are a bug within arenas. Either that or the site hasn't documented a difference in how that works innthem.

Nik936
justbefair wrote:

Well if it happens again, please take a screenshot and send it to support@chess.com.

ty happy.png

Nik936
justbefair wrote:

Well if it happens again, please take a screenshot and send it to support@chess.com.

This e-mail doesnt work, but here you go:

Move 10, my opponent takes 20 seconds to think and gets an auto-resignation notification [screenshot 2; that has a board on it]. Rapid game. Same type of thing happens to me and all of my opponents in rapid arena games.

justbefair
Nik936 wrote:
justbefair wrote:

Well if it happens again, please take a screenshot and send it to support@chess.com.

This e-mail doesnt work, but here you go:

Move 10, my opponent takes 20 seconds to think and gets an auto-resignation notification [screenshot 2; that has a board on it]. Rapid game. Same type of thing happens to me and all of my opponents in rapid arena games.

Try again with the email. The address is correct.