New account Sandbagging before playing in tournaments

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Avatar of zmezoo

I have recently been playing in more of the arena tournaments on chess.com and have noticed on multiple occasions that there are new accounts created then play the minimum number of games to sandbag the account before entering into the arena tournament and they proceed to win every game and usually with a high move accuracy too. allowing for podium finishes, i tend to look at the winners games to see how they played. 

If you look at their played games the first 13 games are all 1 move games where they lose by running out of time or abandonment then play in arena tournament and wins every game. Can chess.com not auto close accounts that have the first few games in  a row where they have so far lost every game and the games only consists of say 10 moves or less. This seems like a easy thing to filter  and auto find for when looking for fake accounts or accounts used to cheat(i consider sandbagging cheating you are gaining an unfair advantage on your opponents).  

Avatar of baddogno

Nice post, but wrong forum.  You need to join this club and post there...

https://www.chess.com/club/cheating-forum

Avatar of zmezoo

That link is to a club ie why its /club/cheating-fourm in your link. I don’t see that a forum in the list when at the forums main page (chess.com/fourm) for cheating, so it’s hard to post to a cheating forum when there is not one. so seeing as site feedback most closely matches what I am doing on the sandbagging and this it seems rather appropriate.

Avatar of Sred
zmezoo wrote:
I don’t see that forum in the list when at the forums main page (chess.com/fourm), so it’s hard to post there with no link to it so seeing as site feedback most closely matches what I am doing on the sandbagging and this it seems rather appropriate.

It may seem so, but public forum posts on cheating are actually not allowed. Just report them.

Avatar of zmezoo

i do report the players individually however i also feel the need to give the site feedback, hence my post of thoughts on catching cheaters such as this in the site feedback fourm. the account linked is nothing more than a example to show a point of what is happening looks the same on every one of these i see. Its a pattern i think chess.com can use to catch them, i have a feeling they may already know about it, however if not, i'm trying to bring it to their attention. its annoying to have them in tournaments, and its also annoying when they abandon a game after a move when you play them while sandbagging.

Avatar of Sred
zmezoo wrote:

i do report the players individually however i also feel the need to give the site feedback, hence my post of thoughts on catching cheaters such as this in the site feedback fourm. the account linked is nothing more than a example to show a point of what is happening looks the same on every one of these i see. Its a pattern i think chess.com can use to catch them, i have a feeling they may already know about it, however if not, i'm trying to bring it to their attention. its annoying to have them in tournaments, and its also annoying when they abandon a game after a move when you play them while sandbagging.

Well, it's just against the policy of the site, in particular if you name players. Expect the thread to be locked soon.

Avatar of baddogno

@zmezoo:

Obviously you don't believe what everyone has told you, so I've copied this from the Fair Play article..

  • Please do not discuss your suspicions in the forums!
  • Please do not make public accusations on a users wall or in their notes!
  • Please do not make public accusations of any username in public chat in Live Chess (while observing a game or playing a game)!
  • Any of the above described public accusations / actions against a member may lead to your own account being restricted, regardless of what is found against the accused.
Avatar of baddogno

And of course if you had bothered to click on the link I gave you, you would have found this:

The Cheating Forum is a place to discuss the problem of cheating and what can be done about it. It is NOT a place to report cheaters, and the rule against public accusations remains in effect.

Suspected cheaters can be reported with the Report Member feature. 

Fair play in general: https://support.chess.com/category/140-fair-play-and-cheating

Article regarding stance on fair play: https://www.chess.com/article/view/chess-com-fair-play-and-cheat-detection

 
 
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