New Profile format

Pertinent information about a player's stats... right there.  No extra clicks.

I approve.  Thanks. 

I'm not very observant; I don't see any difference. Guess that means it's ok?

I should have posted a screen grab.  Apologies.  I'm speaking about the section of quick stats -- that wasn't there for a long time.  You had to, for a while, click on a variant you were interested in to see...anything really.  For some time they had "total moves" and not much else.  They brought back some needed information, imho of course, and added a spiffy little graph if you like that sort of thing.

For a quick snapshot, this is perfect for bullet purposes.  I had mostly stopped checking profiles altogether because the main stats page has too much extraneous information, which is useful for some but is annoying to call up if you're playing 30 opponents an hour.

Sadly, it appears that total moves has disappeared, a really cool quick feature. 

Is this in error or intentional?

in what way is total moves informative? 

i was just trying to call mykingdomforanose for the answer to that!

The total moves made is no less interesting than your total number of games, your total number of wins, your total number of losses, and your total number of draws....

Why do any of those things exist? Because you have a sense of accomplishment when you hit 1,000 total games or 1,000 total wins; likewise, you have a sense of accomplishment when you hit 100k or 1 million moves.  

... Moreover, any number, any figure, can have meaning. 

Through my total number of moves that I recorded yesterday (115,985) I can actually figure out what my average moves per game is; I can compare this to what other websites have said the average game lasts is, and from that I can understand if I should really consider resigning earlier, or I can have an idea of the average game length of very amateur players like myself versus professionals. 

You could even take the total moves of Grand Masters here and see what sort of discrepancies may exist. For instance, what players tend to have higher average moves per game and which have lower. I could see someone comparing players who tend to play closed, classical positions versus modern ones and seeing the differences in average moves per game. 

I can also more quickly figure out how much chess I played in a month... If I only made 1,000 moves, and I usually see 2k moves go by,  yet my ELO goes up, I can figure out that I really should be playign chess more slowly and deliberately... 

(And if you play multiple forms of chess here -- Daily, Blitz, etc., a total number of moves is much more efficient than tracking the total number of games played.)

... There's hundreds of reasons people can come up with as to why this matters. 

I guess since I grew up a baseball fan and was taught in my science classes that meticulously recording data always can serve a purpose and enlighten, I have always been dedicated to recording the data from what I do, whether it is music (last.fm) or how much I type (whatpulse). 

Even if this data point seems useless to you, it can make other people happy, and serve small purposes in their life.

you are a 1200 player focusing on if your average number of moves should tell you to resign. 

i agree that data matters. but, only if it can be applied constructively. total moves means nothing. we are both amateurs here. if you are looking for data, total moves ain't gonna help your game.

i may have lost a game to that player because i couldn't help staring at that big nose!

Still a far cry from what we had access to in V2...

Lol, sure.

I don't care if it doesn't help my game. Believe it or not but this is something I generally do to relax -- it's like bowling, right. I like bowling, and I would like to be a better bowler, but I am not going to buy a bowling ball & sign up for bowling lessons. I'm here for a laugh, and I like the 'total moves' number for the same reason other people like post counts. I feel like my recreational activity is being quantified and that's fun. 

The total number of games I have won/loss/drawn does not help my game, either. Someone can have an identical number to me, but have an ELO that is much higher because of who they were playing. 

The number of tactics I have solved (another number provided) is irrelevant as well. 

In-game trophies; in-game tournaments; in game awards; flares; how many page views my profile has, and a statistical breakdown of my wins/losses/draws in tournament games will not improve my chess. 

But they are all here because people like these features. 

I don't really like the idea of playing 4-way chess, and I don't really like Bullet. But other people do -- and I hope that these features are kept. 

But sure, Al.  I'd like to hear more about how you don't care about this number.  Maybe I, too, can one day be this zen and above caring. Tell me what I got to do to be more like you. 

Was the player history removed too? I played someone who I played in the past multiple times but I cant see our total score anymore. is this somewhere else?

Yeah, that's gone, but pretty sure it is a bug and will come back.

in one post you write how you can figure things out with total number of moves and in this reply you contradict yourself.

i really don't care what you do. i was responding to your statements of how total moves *helps*-hundreds of reasons, you wrote. 

Good to know it's coming back!

Also thanks to the techies for fixing the Puzzle bug!

But even in your first snarky reply to me, the implication is that it would not help me as a 1200 player. You have conceded that these things are potentially useful, and that they do serve a purpose. 

You also never addressed how, say, having your total wins/losses/draws would make any sense as a feature from the perspective that it does not make anyone a better chess player to know this raw data either. 

Moreover, by pointing out that there are multiple reasons to have a feature, I am not contradicting myself in the slgihtest. I am pointing out that there are many reasons as to  why people would want this. 

You haven't really thought this out much & are just trying to give people a hard time in the forums.

But please do reply; I would like to know what you think about this and if you have any tips on how I can stop  caring and bear the halo of disinterest so well like you do. I could really use to zen out next to the water like you. How do I do that? 

i made no "implication". i stated clearly that total moves is meaningless. i did not beat around the bush.

i never spoke about wins, losses, and draws.

as far as not caring, determining moves per game based on the useless statistic will give you the same result as not caring about total moves-which is nothing. 

as far as being zen on the water, it starts with the raft....

then add some water...

...and contemplate that the effectiveness of your SPF 30 sunscreen is very good letting you relax and enjoy the gentle lapping of water as the Sun beguiles you with warmth. 

Hope the W/L/D against opponents comes back soon too.  Smiles everyone!  Smiles!