New review presentation is awfull

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davidk67
Martin_Stahl wrote:
davidk67 wrote:

In this position, Game Review says the best move for white is 11. Bg5 and gives it a +0.81 advantage for white. When you put the move on the board, Game Review says it's an inaccuracy and the eval bar goes to -0.02. Why? This Game Review is useless. HOWEVER, if you skip Game Review because it's silly and just use the engine, you are fine. (I understand why the knight on c3 is NOT hanging, but black doesn't have to take it on move 11.)

What strength are you running at?

I don't think I even understand what this question means? I didn't know I could change the strength.

late_4work

Love how Commentary blocks the eval bar in mobile app, any solution yet?!

Martin_Stahl
davidk67 wrote:

I don't think I even understand what this question means? I didn't know I could change the strength.

In the main Settings for analysis/review the strength of the review engine can be configured. It's based on time with the options of Fast, Standard, Deep, and Maximum. The higher the level the more time that is spent on positions.

A review at lower strength is going to have differences to one at a higher level, especially is certain positions.

davidk67
Martin_Stahl wrote:
davidk67 wrote:

In this position, Game Review says the best move for white is 11. Bg5 and gives it a +0.81 advantage for white. When you put the move on the board, Game Review says it's an inaccuracy and the eval bar goes to -0.02. Why? This Game Review is useless. HOWEVER, if you skip Game Review because it's silly and just use the engine, you are fine. (I understand why the knight on c3 is NOT hanging, but black doesn't have to take it on move 11.)

What strength are you running at?

Game Review is in Stockfish 16, set to Fast. Analysis is Stockfish 16, Depth 20, number of lines 4.

Martin_Stahl
davidk67 wrote:

Game Review is in Stockfish 16, set to Fast. Analysis is Stockfish 16, Depth 20, number of lines 4.

Fast is going to miss things that a higher strength is less likely to. So, what you experienced is likely to happen, where one ply in difference has a different evaluation.

That can happen at higher strengths as well, but it should be less common the stronger it's set. That said, there's some types of positions that engines have issues with, where one play makes a difference and letting the engine calculate at higher depths, more than gets reached in a review, might be needed.

humanauto

glad to see so many like minded people. new look is not an improvement, its just bad. at least give us the option to switch to old version. btw, u cant always succeed chess.com devs, its ok.

davidk67
humanauto wrote:

glad to see so many like minded people. new look is not an improvement, its just bad. at least give us the option to switch to old version. btw, u cant always succeed chess.com devs, its ok.

I don't think I am like-minded, not totally. Sure, there are deficiencies in the new look, but all the deficiencies are irrelevant. All those silly features like the coach's speak bubble are totally useless to help you improve at chess. The engine analysis is the most important thing, and you don't even need Game Review for that. Game Review is just a fun feature, and it's still a fun feature. People are complaining way too much.

kn_ow
davidk67 wrote:
humanauto wrote:

glad to see so many like minded people. new look is not an improvement, its just bad. at least give us the option to switch to old version. btw, u cant always succeed chess.com devs, its ok.

I don't think I am like-minded, not totally. Sure, there are deficiencies in the new look, but all the deficiencies are irrelevant. All those silly features like the coach's speak bubble are totally useless to help you improve at chess. The engine analysis is the most important thing, and you don't even need Game Review for that. Game Review is just a fun feature, and it's still a fun feature. People are complaining way too much.

Different strokes for different folks. What may be important to you may be unimportant to others or visa versa. I'm sure you get it. I'm just pointing it out because you gave an opinion. In the end we're all alright! ")

Abrahamnilso

I don't like it either

chaosphere656

Totally crap, how can we go back to an older version on android ? Do we have to contact Chess.com support to complain about this new reviewing style ?

chaosphere656

I just downgraded to version 4.6.24 (downloaded from https://echecs-chess-com.fr.malavida.com/android/ )and it works like before, will not update until they change that crappy review !!

Martin_Stahl

Loading an APK from unofficial sources is risky and at some point old versions will no longer be supported.

999t999t

I honestly tried to give it a try, see if it's as bad as it looks, and yes, it is!

999t999t

Thinking of cancelling my diamond membership

foldingarmour

I agree that the new review format is really really bad. I've given it a chance and I still hate it. I don't like that I can't see where the significant moves are and it's really hard to navigate between parts of the match. Rethink!

jimsav444

I have to add to these comments about the poor redesign of the Game Review. It was perfectly designed, but now it takes multiple clicks to compare played moves to the best moves. Please bring back the old version.

doctor_octagon

Previously we were able to choose - review as white or black - with the simple click of a switch. Now you have added TWO ADDITIONAL STEPS; I have to click on settings, then interface, then click my review choice.

This is frustrating and defeats the purpose of my membership level as I often use it to review games.

It may be the case that I need to reconsider the diamond level subscription as I can simply review on Lichess for free or get a cheap account on decodechess.com

I hope that you will address this issue promptly.

richnfamous
doctor_octagon wrote:

I hope that you will address this issue promptly.

unfortunately it appears that the concerns of we paying customers are being (more or less) ignored. the new review system is awful, but at least some of us who complained early on have been reverted to the old system - temporarily

chaosphere656

Do we need to contact support to file a complaint about that ? Is it relevant ?

mattmos

The more people that file complaints to support the better in my eyes. I'm one of the people that has been reverted back ot the original and don't want to lose it again!