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shadowtanuki · 2025-01-03T06:34:08-08:00

Can something be done to make some deletions from the site's list of filtered words? I have lost several long posts because of using a word that no person with a healthy mind would possibly find offensive in the context. This egregious filter is just one of many ways that the site shows contemp

DiogenesDue

Jan 6, 2025

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#141

ibrust wrote:

Dio is the sort of person I think who feeds off of others turmoil. He's kind of a blood sucking vampire, and that's not to put him down it's my honest assessment of him, he actually feeds off of being contentious and arrogant toward people. It's why he's been locked in debate with now 4 people in this thread, it's why he keeps a long list of things people have said just to try and humiliate them (unsuccessfully but even so). I imagine he probably gets glee at the thought of having forum members banned or the thread censored. Part of it's just a need for power. At some point in his life he probably felt powerless / humiliated at the hands of the group... then back when he was a manager people had to kiss up to him, and for the first time in his life women were forced to submit to him... On another level, he's probably desperate to recover his lost innocence, which he can never regain, so he actually has to suck that life out of others. etc.. But the best you can do with a person like that is actually just to avoid them.

When you build your narrative on literally a dozen assumptions, you know it's not accurate. In fact even if each wild guess here had 50/50 odds, your odds of this narrative being right would be less than 1 in 4000.

I will continue to mirror every behavior you display back to you, so if you are feeling like you want to avoid me and find me malicious and contentious, welcome to some knowledge of self. I mean let's not pretend you yourself think you are a bed of roses here on the forums in the first place...but you don't seem to grasp that I am matching your venom in a measured manner, kind for kind.

Optimissed has never grokked that I escalate and de-escalate according to his behavior either. It's quite the blind spot. He'll say "you were finally being nice for a little while, and then you started up again" completely oblivious to his actions.

This is a very simple technique that even tantrum-prone toddlers eventually respond to when they finally recognize their own behavior. Not you, though.

Why do you choose a diseased rat as your avatar, anyway? I wouldn't want to make any assumptions. Avoiding me is also acceptable, probably preferable.

DiogenesDue

Jan 7, 2025

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#142

Optimissed wrote:

And that's because you escalate and de-escalate according to your own reactions, which are prompted by whatever unrelated angst you happen to be exeriencing at the time. You do that to everyone. When they challenge your inaccurate and often downright silly statements, you start off slowly and goad them into a reaction. Then, you have what you hope is going to be a legitimate reason for escalation. You've been doing it as long as I can remember, which is a long time. It's pretty silly to imagine that no-one has noticed or that I never commented on it. A troll often cannot help themselves and you stalk people, so how can they avoid you? There is definitely enough in this post of yours to get you banned from here, if those responsible here were actually competent and fair, because mirroring others' behaviour can only be their behaviour AS YOU REPRESENT IT, which is usually deliberately incorrectly. Enough said.

Problems with your narrative:

- I don't "start off slowly", I am direct and genuine from the get-go, but I do mirror what's being put forth towards me or others. Pretty darn hard to argue that I am sneakily pouncing or something.

- My perceptions must be fairly decent, given that for a decade now you've been driving your escalated "car" right off the cliff and been muted (many times), yet somehow, I'm always sitting at the top looking down having stopped mine in time. It's very Wile E. Coyote in nature.

- "Can't help myself" better applies to you here, as I just described.

- Between us you are the only one who has admitted, in writing no less, that you stalked someone (Elroch). I'm very sorry for you and some of the other angsty posters that find it unfair that I keep linked snippets of your behavior to remind you of later, but that is not stalking, not in any way. It's just holding you accountable for what you have freely said in "public". Here's the thing...if you didn't make such statements, I would have nothing to set aside.

I freely invite you or anyone else to try the same thing for me. You'll find it's a bit more difficult from your end due to the differences in how we express ourselves, but the method is easy, and chess.com provides the link button in the TinyMCE editor for this exact purpose, so I think you'd have a hard time selling the idea that I can't use it.

- Your assertion about my post warranting a ban is flat out ridiculous. Calling the mods incompetent for not banning me does not help your case. Rather the opposite.

- "usually deliberately incorrectly. Enough said."...indeed. I woulld come up with some pun about Tripoli to go with your triple "ly" here, but I suspect you are not in the mood for puns.

DiogenesDue

Jan 7, 2025

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#143

Optimissed wrote:

Everyone can see that you are deliberately picking arguments and being insulting on multiple threads.

Your "discussion" of my "narrative" is merely your "narrative" and it's quite obvious you are the one who invents his own narrative to suit every occasion. At the very least, you're damning yourself. You can't see that, which is the reason that discussion with you is so unrewarding.

As an example, you should probably have taken me up on my offer to debate the paranormal. You made the observation that the paranormal is unfalsifiable. That may or may not be true but it's generally accepted that an unfalsifiable thesis can have no serious basis. If a proposition cannot be shown to be false due to its inherent nature (like "multiverse" ideas or "determinism") then there can be no viable claim for the proposition to be taken seriously. Essentially, the proposition is no more than an invention or, as you might term it, "a narrative".

You might have tried to argue that the paranormal isn't falsifiable and therefore can be dismissed, but you would have to show why it's unfalsifiable. Naturally, I wouldn't accept its existence were it not for a quantity of evidence which is sufficient to make the case very strongly that it's testable in reality. Then you could have attempted to make the case that it has been tested and found to be absent or non-existent or an invention or whatever. For instance, that charlatan who offered the prize money which he was never going to pay and which he quite likely didn't have, who was all the rage 15 years ago. Nobody ever mentions him now, because he was fraudulent.

I said post your own thread about the paranormal. So...do it. Are are you worried I won't be the only one taking your arguments apart at the seams?

Your "offer", once again, was disingenuous. But if you want the drama of a confrontation mano 'e mano, then pick somebody who is interested in winning, and not just debunking your nonsense as a type of public service.

How about Playerafar (if he were interested)? I'll wager he can argue you to a complete standstill even on your own "home turf" topic and in spite of your claims of superior intellect.

DiogenesDue

Jan 7, 2025

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#144

Optimissed wrote:

Funnily enough, Dio, I'm not going to make my own thread on the paranormal.

On past experience, I am not allowed to have my own threads. Wonder why that is? Also, I have you blocked so you wouldn't be able to take part. It has to be on neutral territory.

You actually back Playerafar to beat me in a debate? You must know whom he actually is, as perhaps I do too. Like you, he cannot make coherent arguments and he continually resorts to personal attacks. O-person this, O-person that etc. and all invented. So you must think there's another person behind him who can argue better or you wouldn't suggest that. The person behind him perhaps doesn't actually know when he's lost an argument and continually appeals to authority. I wouldn't mind a proper debate with him on that subject, though. I'm interested in whether he can come up with a good argument if he tries.

Unlike some people I could mention, I'm always respectful when a person uses his mind well and is also respectful in his turn. I'm always interested in the reality and if I couldn't show an incorrect argument to be bad, even when stated quite well, then I would have to rethink my own arguments and ability.

- Your threads don't go anywhere because you are insufferable, honestly. But you could actually make a real and significant effort at hosting a thread on the paranormal where you could force yourself to be even-handed and tolerant.

- Precision is not your strong suit. Read the wager more carefully.

- Your "everybody is in a secret club that wants to get me" cabal mindset is creeping in again...you really should stop using it as a crutch for convincing yourself you are right. You routinely think that a bunch of posters, mods and staff are uniquely singling you out to "keep you down". If that's not overblown ego, what is?

- You have not once re-thought your own arguments, or ability, in a decade here. When people are nice, you cheerily steamroll over them with your "my arguments are better because I am smarter" outlook, and then fail to notice that they go away. "Good chap, wonder why we don't see more of them...".

That's the avoidance-driven way of dealing with you. The problem with that course of action is that it protects only one person, and leaves you free to cheerily move on to the next, unfettered by understanding.

crazedrat1000

Jan 7, 2025

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#145

Why would he question his belief in the paranormal when he's correct? You're the one who knows nothing about the topic, you should be questioning yourself. I've seen these phenomenon happen with my own eyes, tens of thousands of times. Infact, I've never seen it not work. And no, I am not the only one - clearly. It's like I told you, there is a whole subculture of people who know this and do this, and have for thousands of years. The fact modern science hasn't told you about it - well you mocked and dismissed the MIT research I cited earlier, but you know what? You can't learn everything going by what modern society tells you is true.

I've composed an entire piece of music via rolling dice 300 times. Every note fell into place perfectly and coherently, the final result sounded like it was written by a master composer. I didn't write a note of it, and I still have the song. It is so deliberately, intricately organized, you wouldn't be able to tell a human being didn't write it to sound cogent in a million years...

I love the idea of this debate, its exciting, though I'm not sure the mods would allow it for very long. But in reality... it's hard for me to imagine Dio making a substantive argument against the paranormal. I don't think he's actually even thought about why he disbelieves it - he has no idea what he'd say. The mental outline you gave him for what his argument could be was actually a clearer one than he'd thought of up to that point... I think the debate would unfortunately be very low quality, probably alot of insults, or just dogmatic insistence magnified by force of will basically. Like what we see here...

I don't necessarily mind insults when they're interlaced with a substantive argument, however when the argument is just dogmatic insistence and dismissals, plus insults... the conversation is not interesting, it just becomes very tiring.

AGC-Gambit_YT

Jan 7, 2025

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#146

stop dissing each other, you both are gaining nothing from this!

DiogenesDue

Jan 7, 2025

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#147

ibrust wrote:

Why would he question his belief in the paranormal when he's correct? You're the one who knows nothing about the topic, you should be questioning yourself. I've seen these phenomenon happen with my own eyes, tens of thousands of times. Infact, I've never seen it not work. And no, I am not the only one - clearly. It's like I told you, there is a whole subculture of people who know this and do this, and have for thousands of years. The fact modern science hasn't told you about it - well you mocked and dismissed the MIT research I cited earlier, but you know what? You can't learn everything going by what modern society tells you is true.

I've composed an entire piece of music via rolling dice 300 times. Every note fell into place perfectly and coherently, the final result sounded like it was written by a master composer. I didn't write a note of it, and I still have the song. It is so deliberately, intricately organized, you wouldn't be able to tell a human being didn't write it to sound cogent in a million years...

I love the idea of this debate, its exciting, though I'm not sure the mods would allow it for very long. But in reality... it's hard for me to imagine Dio making a substantive argument against the paranormal. I don't think he's actually even thought about why he disbelieves it - he has no idea what he'd say. The mental outline you gave him for what his argument could be was actually a clearer one than he'd thought of up to that point... I think the debate would unfortunately be very low quality, probably alot of insults, or just dogmatic insistence magnified by force of will basically. Like what we see here...

I don't necessarily mind insults when they're interlaced with a substantive argument, however when the argument is just dogmatic insistence and dismissals, plus insults... the conversation is not interesting, it just becomes very tiring.

You can write great sounding music by just picking a background chord progression in a key, randomly choosing any notes (and/or chords) off the pentatonic scale for that key, and just playing in the proper time signature. That's how jazz musicians can come up great sounding music off the top of their head for hours on end or guitarists can do a solo off the cuff.

If your claim is that you randomly rolled 300 notes off an 88 key piano without regard to what key you are playing in and just made a concerto via "intervention", then you're not being truthful, either with us and/or with yourself.

shadowtanuki

Jan 7, 2025

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#148

Oh snap Dio came up with a good riff on that one.

crazedrat1000

Jan 7, 2025

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#149

It didn't sound like random notes the way jazz or a guitar solo sounds, it sounded like a coherent thought, like every note fit together in perfection the way that a timeless classic sounds, the type of music people spend their lives trying to write and never do - the type of music you search the radio for and usually don't find - that's what it sounded like, it was not random notes a 3rd graded could randomly choose on a keyboard. How retarded do you think I am, how retarded do you think the world is?
Didn't you read what I said earlier? I diagnosed a random person with a rare tropical parasite out of nowhere based on no information using the same technique. This is not a random outcome we're talking about. Randomness does not exist, technically. You don't even have to take my word for it - you can do it yourself, everyone can. Except... you have to be a) capable of suspending judgment long enough to try it, which is a major obstacle, b) you have to be able to go into a transcendental meditative state (i.e. prayer), where you essentially pray for a particular outcome. And that's all, it is that simple. If you can do those 2 things... then you don't have to take my word for this, you can prove it to yourself.

DiogenesDue

Jan 7, 2025

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#150

ibrust wrote:

It didn't sound like random notes the way jazz or a guitar solo sounds, it sounded like a coherent thought, like every note fit together in perfection the way that a timeless classic sounds, the type of music people spend their lives trying to write and never do - the type of music you search the radio for and usually don't find - that's what it sounded like, it was not random notes a 3rd graded could randomly choose on a keyboard. How retarded do you think I am, how retarded do you think the world is?
Didn't you read what I said earlier? I diagnosed a random person with a rare tropical parasite out of nowhere based on no information using the same technique. This is not a random outcome we're talking about. Randomness does not exist, technically. You don't even have to take my word for it - you can do it yourself, everyone can. Except... you have to be a) capable of suspending judgment long enough to try it, which is a major obstacle, b) you have to be able to go into a transcendental meditative state (i.e. prayer), where you essentially pray for a particular outcome. And that's all, it is that simple. If you can do those 2 things... then you don't have to take my word for this, you can prove it to yourself.

I didn't say like a 3rd grader. Jazz and guitar solos do not sound like random notes...that's the whole point. This just shows that you didn't even understand what I said, or why the pentatonic scale works well that way...or probably anything about the math behind harmonics, the Circle of 5ths, etc. Under what circumstances was this music written? Was it completely on your own, or did some "guru" tell you the method for randomizing the notes you were playing? Because it would not be the first time this method of using the pentatonic scale was used to hoodwink someone into believing they were touched by the divine through the medium of some shyster.

Go ahead, post a YouTube with some kind of provenance that at least attempts to show you actually wrote this music, and then let people hear your masterpiece. If it's such a miracle, you should be sharing it, for the glory of whomever, right?

vamsim7

Jan 7, 2025

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#151

ibrust, could I ask you what your profile picture is? Is it a rat?

PennsylvanianDude

Jan 7, 2025

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#152

It's a rat

crazedrat1000

Jan 7, 2025

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#153

DiogenesDue wrote:

ibrust wrote:

It didn't sound like random notes the way jazz or a guitar solo sounds, it sounded like a coherent thought, like every note fit together in perfection the way that a timeless classic sounds, the type of music people spend their lives trying to write and never do - the type of music you search the radio for and usually don't find - that's what it sounded like, it was not random notes a 3rd graded could randomly choose on a keyboard. How retarded do you think I am, how retarded do you think the world is?
Didn't you read what I said earlier? I diagnosed a random person with a rare tropical parasite out of nowhere based on no information using the same technique. This is not a random outcome we're talking about. Randomness does not exist, technically. You don't even have to take my word for it - you can do it yourself, everyone can. Except... you have to be a) capable of suspending judgment long enough to try it, which is a major obstacle, b) you have to be able to go into a transcendental meditative state (i.e. prayer), where you essentially pray for a particular outcome. And that's all, it is that simple. If you can do those 2 things... then you don't have to take my word for this, you can prove it to yourself.

I didn't say like a 3rd grader. Jazz and guitar solos do not sound like random notes...that's the whole point. This just shows that you didn't even understand what I said, or why the pentatonic scale works well that way...or probably anything about the math behind harmonics, the Circle of 5ths, etc. Under what circumstances was this music written? Was it completely on your own, or did some "guru" tell you the method for randomizing the notes you were playing? Because it would not be the first time this method of using the pentatonic scale was used to hoodwink someone into believing they were touched by the divine through the medium of some shyster.

Go ahead, post a YouTube with some kind of provenance that at least attempts to show you actually wrote this music, and then let people hear your masterpiece. If it's such a miracle, you should be sharing it, for the glory of whomever, right?

Jazz and guitar solos aren't random notes, neither rhythmically nor melodically.

Demoing this would require me having recording equipment and an instrument, which I don't currently have. However... I don't think if I went to the trouble of recording and posting the song it would actually convince you, you'd probably just say I wrote the song myself or ripped it off and posted it. The only way you will ever believe any of this is if you do it yourself. Therefor I encourage you, if you actually care to know what you're talking about, to do your research and experiment. Most people usually start with the Tarot. So buy a book on it and start there, that would be my advice. It is extremely easy to divine something with the tarot, you literally just pray... ask a question, and then draw the card to receive the answer. You could actually do it now online if you wanted to do it. Now... you will have to use your intelligence to penetrate through alot of symbolism and superstitious dogma in order to get to the essence of what the system is about, but I believe you are capable of doing that. And I'd like to point out that many well known musicians who you already know - who you might already listen to - have done what I'm describing, and similar things. Jimmy Page is the most obvious example, he owned an occult bookstore, it was his main interest other than guitar... But Jim Morrison did the same thing, he was influenced by James George Frazer... Black Sabbath have songs openly about Aleister Crowley. Most popular 60s or 70s bands did this. Fleetwood mac, the Rolling Stones. And they usually made it obvious - they'd often mention it in their music.

PennsylvanianDude

Jan 7, 2025

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#154

How did we get here?

sawdof

Jan 7, 2025

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#155

PennsylvanianDude wrote:

How did we get here?

I took the bus

PennsylvanianDude

Jan 7, 2025

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#156

Yo me too

DiogenesDue

Jan 7, 2025

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#157

ibrust wrote:

Jazz and guitar solos aren't random notes, neither rhythmically nor melodically.

Yes, that is obvious from what I said about being in the right key and using the pentatonic scale.

Demoing this would require me having recording equipment and an instrument, which I don't currently have. However... I don't think if I went to the trouble of recording and posting the song it would actually convince you, you'd probably just say I wrote the song myself or ripped it off and posted it. The only way you will ever believe any of this is if you do it yourself. Therefor I encourage you, if you actually care to know what you're talking about, to do your research and experiment. Most people usually start with the Tarot. So buy a book on it and start there, that would be my advice. It is extremely easy to divine something with the tarot, you literally just pray... ask a question, and then draw the card to receive the answer. You could actually do it now online if you wanted to do it. Now... you will have to use your intelligence to penetrate through alot of symbolism and superstitious dogma in order to get to the essence of what the system is about, but I believe you are capable of doing that. And I'd like to point out that many well known musicians who you already know - who you might already listen to - have done what I'm describing, and similar things. Jimmy Page is the most obvious example, he owned an occult bookstore, it was his main interest other than guitar... But Jim Morrison did the same thing, he was influenced by James George Frazer... Black Sabbath have songs openly about Aleister Crowley. Most popular 60s or 70s bands did this. Fleetwood mac, the Rolling Stones. And they usually made it obvious - they'd often mention it in their music.

Assumptions really do seem to be your main problem.

I have owned a Tarot deck since 1987. It's an exercise in confirmation bias. You flip the cards, then construct a narrative to fit your reading. Just like Astrology, palm reading, etc. the "signs" and meanings of the randomizer in play matter little, only that their "meanings" are vague enough to allow you to interpret something you wish for (or fear).

Luckily or unluckily for you, discussing the Tarot is not considered "religious" anymore (because the Tarot has been so thoroughly debunked that it modern times it falls under "things that magically appeal to suckers"). So allow me to explain, since it's not against the guidelines...

Let's take The Hanged Man...here are the possible interpretations of just that one card:

General Upright Interpretations

Surrender and Letting Go: A call to release control and accept what cannot be changed.
Emphasizes trust in the process of life.

Perspective and Insight: Encourages looking at a situation from a different angle or seeing things in a new light. Suggests gaining wisdom through reflection or sacrifice.

Sacrifice for Growth: Represents the need to make a personal sacrifice for a greater good or spiritual advancement.

Pause and Suspension: Indicates a period of waiting, stillness, or inaction, which can be necessary for deeper understanding.

Spiritual Awakening: Often linked to enlightenment or a shift in consciousness.
Reflects breaking away from societal norms or old habits.

General Reversed Interpretations

Resistance to Change: Suggests the querent is avoiding necessary sacrifices or clinging to old perspectives. May indicate fear of letting go.

Stagnation or Delay: Points to feeling stuck or unable to move forward.
Could represent procrastination or lack of progress.

Missed Opportunities: Suggests that insight or wisdom is being overlooked.
Warns against failing to see the bigger picture.

Selfishness or Ego: Highlights an unwillingness to make sacrifices or prioritize others.
Can signify self-centeredness blocking growth.

Involuntary Pause: Indicates a suspension caused by external circumstances rather than intentional reflection.

Symbolic Meanings

Spiritual Growth: The Hanged Man often signifies a transformative period, even if it feels uncomfortable or involuntary.

Sacrifice and Redemption: Some associate it with martyrdom or the notion of giving up something valuable for a higher purpose.

Rebirth and Transition: Reflects a liminal space where new beginnings are formed.

In Specific Contexts

Love and Relationships:

Upright: Encourages patience, self-reflection, and a new perspective on a relationship.

Reversed: Suggests stagnation, a one-sided relationship, or fear of commitment.

Career and Finances:

Upright: Indicates a pause to reconsider goals, priorities, or strategies.

Reversed: Warns against indecision or missed opportunities for growth.

Health and Wellness:

Upright: Suggests a need for rest and reflection to gain clarity about health matters.

Reversed: Points to ignoring necessary self-care or feeling trapped in unhealthy habits.

Spiritual Guidance:

Upright: Calls for surrendering to spiritual insights and embracing transformation.

Reversed: Suggests resistance to spiritual growth or clinging to old beliefs.

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So....the definitions are soo incredibly broad that you can create a thousand narratives, and it doesn't matter what you or the person being read tells you are the circumstances. You can find something in your mind that will fit. Even if you get stuck, you can just say to the chump...er. person being read...that the answer has "already happened and will reveal itself to you" (which is code for: "something will happen to you soon that you will connect to this because of confirmation bias'), or switch gears and say that it's a metaphor for something else one level removed, which just makes things even more vague.

It's bad enough that people misuse the Tarot willfully. Actually believing it is worse in many ways. It robs you of agency in your decisions, and gives you fear or hopes that are completely out of line with reality.

I will make you a "Tarot" mechanism right on the spot:

One regular 6-sided die and a penny. Heads is..."potential and positivity", tails is..."choices and navigation".

The die rolls:

1 - Relationships and family

2 - Career and growth

3 - Health and wellness

4 - Purpose and path

5 - Mysteries and portents

6 - Taylor Swift (roll again for a number 1-5 for her reading, if you get Taylor Swift 3 times in a row, give away all your money to the person who taught you how to do this and devote yourself to a life of meditation).

Now roll your die and flip your coin. The narratives will write themselves in your head...*exactly* like a Tarot reading but with slightly fewer choices. I added Taylor Swift so you can market this to Swifties exclusively. You're welcome.

Don't forget your get out of jail free card...if they come back and say the reading was wrong or the prediction didn't happen, accuse them of either successfully dodging the bad outcome with your insightful help, or subtly blame them for not making the right choices carefully and thereby missing the good outcome.

shadowtanuki

Jan 7, 2025

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#158

I just used some cards I had around the house to tell my fortune. I've got a hot date coming up, it would seem, by candle light in the dining room with a woman dressed in scarlet.

Dievas_Senelis

Jan 7, 2025

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#159

This has veered far from the original topic. And many posts are more along the lines of personal attacks than constructive criticism.

Locking topic. And muting a few for a day, or so.

Cheers.