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shadowtanuki

Public forums with no moderation would be like what the clubs are: terrible people with no respect for each other being protected by the terrible admins who only want to see people at each other's throats. (that is my characterization of the site's 'serious' discussion clubs)

APersonWhoYoyos
shadowtanuki wrote:

You mean like what you have in the clubs that are supposed to be the discussion alternative for public forums?

Just because we have that option doesn't mean we use it. I was an admin in the last version of Rev's club for example as well, and we basically never used comment editing/deleting except on trolls

APersonWhoYoyos

But with the average age on the public forums, I highly doubt people would have the sense to avoid using such features frivolously if they had them.

APersonWhoYoyos

Really there are two things that CC needs to do regarding their moderation: 1. They need to be paying their moderators so that you don't get the lazy ones who barely look at reports and just ban or mute when they see a large number of reports, and 2. They need to implement far more measures to slow down trolls than they have currently. You can never fully stop trolling on a social feature or social media site, but they should at least be implementing things to slow it down like limiting the posting of photos with new accounts and a system that checks usernames for certain combinations that have been used for troll accounts in the past.

shadowtanuki
TheRealWilliam2 wrote:
shadowtanuki wrote:

You mean like what you have in the clubs that are supposed to be the discussion alternative for public forums?

Just because we have that option doesn't mean we use it. I was an admin in the last version of Rev's club for example as well, and we basically never used comment editing/deleting except on trolls

I'm talking about clubs like Open Discussion and Open Ideas. The only alternative to 'no politics and religion' is an unfair system with no moderation and abusive members. They should have better moderation of the forms, and allow more open discussion. The clubs have insolent users with unsolved anger issues.

sawdof
shadowtanuki wrote:

... The clubs have insolent users with unsolved anger issues.

The moment people think of themselves as elite intellectuals this happens. You could also end up in echo chambers. People shouldn't take themselves or any position too seriously. The best is where people disagree with arguments not other people. But ya know ... Yeah right ...

Boohoo

sawdof
TheRealWilliam2 wrote:

But with the average age on the public forums, I highly doubt people would have the sense to avoid using such features frivolously if they had them.

Adults tend to use it more often.. Especially the self proclaimed intellectuals.

sawdof
Richard wrote:

Hi all,

Just an update on this we have been working on making improvements and they are due to go live shortly, thank you for your patience with this. The experience and safety of our community is of utmost importance to us. Thank you for your feedback it's much appreciated.

Warm regards

Richard

Thanks Richard.

And we'll hold you to this new mission statement.

I have a feeling we'll need a credit card or some id to keep our accounts in the future. While we'd all like to remain totally anonymous, there probably will be a price to pay for safety.

RonaldJosephCote

There's ALWAYS a price to pay for safety. wink

shadowtanuki

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sawdof
shadowtanuki wrote:

I lost all my saved files today, so I can't post the meme that says

wow

very wisdom

such deep

many profound

Fear not, the bunny's got you covered

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/community/the-doubtful-dojo-of-the-definitely-domitable-doge

AlCzervik
David wrote:
AlCzervik wrote:

my interactions with the mod went south during the "frustrated" days. if i remember correctly, he recommended me being banned then.

i have the lowest regard for him.

lol - as if Chess.com requests and makes those sort of recommendations. I'm pretty sure what I said was that if it was me making the decisions, I would have banned you as someone who never says anything positive about the site and only ever adopts the worst opinions of its owners, employees and volunteers who are generally trying to help out. I thought you were being overly harsh on those folks and I tried really hard to present what I thought were perfectly reasonable alternative points of view and possible explanations but you absolutely refused to recognise a single iota of any of that and continued to bad mouth the whole place. Which is you are clearly still doing, despite the fact that Chess.com continues to let you use their services as a basic member.

AlCzervik wrote:

i've had about five topics asking similar questions about staff being absent and useless kid stuff being implemented while functionality and adult supervision suffer.

they don't care.

Articulated in your usually aggressive and highly critical way, no doubt. They've obviously long since decided to just ignore you, which I can't say I disagree with. There are things Chess.com can and should improve and I do agree that they have shown little inclination to implement stuff that sounds like it would be easy that would make a difference, some of it technical, some of it policy-wise, and I found - and still find - that so frustrating as well, and it's why I stepped down from moderating, but that's different to attributing malicious motives and attitudes to the whole organization.

WOW! you are so full of "it". allow me to show the ways...

cc does make requests. they have (or used to have) a forum titled "site feedback". when stuff ain't working, or, when one sees a better way, that's where one goes, no? (rhetorical question) they also have a "help and support" forum. i have posted in these in the past where suggestions are ignored and help is not put forth.

you did suggest i be banned. and, your memory is quite selective. i had a topic praising erik that started with a picture of arnold palmer saluting by taking his hat off (as if we should all thank him. at that time i meant it). i deleted it after he allowed jerks like you to lock topics based on not site violations, but personal preference. he also messaged a terse response that basically told me mods can do what they want.

..."despite the fact that Chess.com continues to let you use their services as a basic member...". your arrogance precedes you. you insult everyone by pretending that cc doesn't make money from the ads free members are bombarded with. everyone knows this.

wait, every adult knows this. for a second i forgot this site is dominated by kids. as we have seen, many are clueless.

"Articulated in your usually aggressive and highly critical way". i was simply being succinct. does this more wordy response meet your needs? you can keep your head in the sand all you want and pretend, but some of us have seen the changes. it says something when the base of the membership goes from adults to children, and longtime respected members leave.

finally, IF money isn't the issue (as i contend), there is no reason to ignore good suggestions. even erik himself mentioned years ago there were good suggestions in one of my topics, only to drop out and allow you to lock it without implementing anything members had suggested.

AlCzervik
David wrote:

Al was a long time paying member, btw, until he became a freeloader like me. He's no troll. He cares (at least cared at some point) about the community.

some empathy perhaps.

He may not have been a troll, but he's turned into one without a single constructive contribution that I've seen - maybe I don't hang out in the forums where he does that, but he's certainly happy to pile on in a negative discussion.

you pretend to know me. i write about you based on your posts and actions.

you HAVE seen me being constructive-then you locked my topics. so, you can stuff it.

you can call my posts here trolling, but you can also write the earth is flat.

WTFrickenA
WinOneGameLoseOne wrote:
WTFrickenA wrote:

I never accused you, though expressed what certainly could be the case in regards to your 1 day join and what we daily deal with here.

No, you are doing worse than accusing. Anyone who has a 1 day join date should be suspect?

That's hilarious 😂..

..but you did jump on me rather oddly for being a 1 day member, and having no clue, given its actually your very first account and experience on cc and no idea then what's been overly posted beyond grotesque images of example like a dog split apart and some crazy lady beside holding it up for a pic with its tongue totally out and as if smiling.

WTFrickenA

....this says a bundle too, from you, a 1 day member

#111 I can simply leave and laugh at your frustrations. Or, I can stay here and be entertained more by your frustrations. Which do you want? You also have that option. If you don't like it, LEAVE. If you like it, JOIN IN.

...but then again you're probably a 12 yr old

AlCzervik

there has been mention of paid mods, and this issue goes to my point of how only money matters to those in charge. the old adage of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it", is being used here. some love being hall monitors with perceived power. so, why pay them? now, there are some that are here quite often and are helpful. i've read martin and justbefair this way (david, is this trolling?).

sometimes, though, mods are not privy to what the site is doing, or, what their plans are. in more than one topic we were told that changes were made for site improvements. when asked what improvements, none were offered.

at times i have read from members that have had topics locked or mutings meted out. both have happened to me, and i've never read of any mod apologize to anyone for being wrong.

i have, though, had a mod threaten me with a ban when i asked why he locked a topic.

i doubt few in this topic remember batgirl. she was a mod because she loved the site. she quit, and it wasn't because of the members. i doubt anyone has a negative word to write about her, so, where do you think the problem was with her volunteering?

AlCzervik
shadowtanuki wrote:

Public forums with no moderation would be like what the clubs are: terrible people with no respect for each other being protected by the terrible admins who only want to see people at each other's throats. (that is my characterization of the site's 'serious' discussion clubs)

ha!

cc initially pointed people to the open discussion club where talk of politics, religion, and other stuff could ruin topics. they used to have a staff member as an admin.

again, the changes.

the club has become a cesspool of infighting where admins and 'regular' members argue about who was muted, for what, and for how long.

so much for openness. as you write, terrible people.

however, the sewer that od became spawned other discussion clubs. some are echo chambers and some are even worse than od. but, not all are run by sewer rats.

AlCzervik
sawdof wrote:
TheRealWilliam2 wrote:

But with the average age on the public forums, I highly doubt people would have the sense to avoid using such features frivolously if they had them.

Adults tend to use it more often.. Especially the self proclaimed intellectuals.

what am i supposed to do as a self proclaimed average dude?

WTFrickenA

WTFrickenA

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