Harry, you've been here for years, you should know that.....oh, wait. You just created your account today. With this account, does that make over a 100? I bet a lot more than that. You rascal.
Since we have that out of the way, who or what are you referring to? Seb? He's not even a premium member, I don't think.
No, I didn't want to start a thread under my other username, just because I don't like people gawping at me. I don't think I am allowed to name anyone specifically, but I have in mind a certain few players who have been frequently abusive, not just to me judging by messages on their walls, but haven't seemingly been restricted in spite of being reported. All these people are paying members, which fact begs my original question.
freedom of speech exists, even online. Its unfortunate that the member who was offensive happens to be a premium member, but the instances of inappropriateness is not limited to premium users only. As far as "management", the site and members are vast, if you wish to call attn to a particular member then report them to "management". Im sure some type of warning or something can be done to dissuade such acts in the future. But as I mentioned earlier in most countries speech is free, so...thicken your skin some :) The same thing hapens outside...People say want they want!
Free Member
Interesting. You're thinking that since they pay "dues", the premium members are given more lee way than the non payers....Could be true, although I haven't seen any blatant favoritism myself. They don't like sock puppets, though. That's their rules, and if a person is on here, they need to respect the rules. If they are favoring, though, then you're right - that's not cool.
I really think there are blatent double standards at work.
Any examples you have of an outright difference in handling of premium members, as opposed to free members?
I hear ya. They had to remind me at least 3 times to stop cheating or I'd get a written warning.
As i have said, I don't think I am allowed to mention any specific names, so you may have to just take my word on it. I would really just like a member of staff to explicitly say that all rules against abusive language are uniformly applied to ALL members, and that absolutely no leniancy is shown to those who are, after all, financing the site. Justice must be seen to be impartial.
Sounds like a reasonable request. Maybe a staff member will comment soon.
Goldcrest, I can kind of relate - I work at a hospital where private rooms are few and far between - most rooms are doubles that patients share with other patients.
They are only given to people with medical reasons to have them, for the most part. The hospital, HOWEVER, gives out these private rooms to people that have donated money to the hospital and are doctors, know a doctor, doctor's wife, etc. That seems like blatant bull crap, too.
Are you silly or what? If you were chess.com, would you not think twice about biting the hand that feeds you?
There are for sure limits, but i am convinced that there is more leniency to someone that actually pays for the service. Even from a legal point of view, it is more complicated...
I would really just like a member of staff to explicitly say that all rules against abusive language are uniformly applied to ALL members, and that absolutely no leniancy is shown to those who are, after all, financing the site.
Aren't we all financing this site? Isn't more traffic generating more revenue because of all the ads?
Goldcrest, I can kind of relate - I work at a hospital where private rooms are few and far between - most rooms are doubles that patients share with other patients.
They are only given to people with medical reasons to have them, for the most part. The hospital, HOWEVER, gives out these private rooms to people that have donated money to the hospital and are doctors, know a doctor, doctor's wife, etc. That seems like blatant bull crap, too.
that sucks, big time.
I would really just like a member of staff to explicitly say that all rules against abusive language are uniformly applied to ALL members, and that absolutely no leniancy is shown to those who are, after all, financing the site.
Aren't we all financing this site? Isn't more traffic generating more revenue because of all the ads?
We all are. Some just more than others.
Goldcrest, I can kind of relate - I work at a hospital where private rooms are few and far between - most rooms are doubles that patients share with other patients.
They are only given to people with medical reasons to have them, for the most part. The hospital, HOWEVER, gives out these private rooms to people that have donated money to the hospital and are doctors, know a doctor, doctor's wife, etc. That seems like blatant bull crap, too.
that sucks, big time.
Yes. I voiced my opinion to my boss about it many times, but they basically told me "all hospitals do it". Still doesn't make it right.
That's saying that the 90yr old lady that just pays her bill and doesn't have a title of a doctor or donates money isn't worth as much as the others. I thought hospitals were supposed to be existing to help all people equally.
freedom of speech exists, even online. Its unfortunate that the member who was offensive happens to be a premium member, but the instances of inappropriateness is not limited to premium users only. As far as "management", the site and members are vast, if you wish to call attn to a particular member then report them to "management". Im sure some type of warning or something can be done to dissuade such acts in the future. But as I mentioned earlier in most countries speech is free, so...thicken your skin some :) The same thing hapens outside...People say want they want!
Free Member
the concept of 'free speech' in the usa only pertains to the right to redress the government without fear of governmental reprisal
free speech does not mean people can say what they wish, where they wish, and websites and employers are legally allowed to curtail certain types of speech (frinstance: if they wish to ban people for using curse words they are allowed to do this)
in addition, many tyopes of speech, such as that which incites violence or is libelous, are not ever protected under the first admendment
so, this is not a free speech issue here on any level
The act of "freely speaking" is actually encouraged in America and embraced elsewhere. Also, to say what you wish to say to someone regardless of how they may interpret what you say is your right. If speech, ideas,acts, or any other form of expression for that matter, were curtailed or limited because of the way other people feel about them then we would begin a "social censorship" that would be really hippocratic, in my view.
Lastly,not that this applies to everone, but throughout a normal day of life people tend to usally say what they feel. Site moderators and Admin have created avenues to address issues of this kind, while realizing you cant censor everything you personally deem inappropriate....look at youtube.
We don't have access to stats to make an informed judgement, just anecdotal evidence. For what it's worth, I reported one premium member for very nasty language (I won't repeat it here - but I'm certain most everyone would find it repugnant) and the user was gone the next day.
I doubt I was the only one that complained. The reply from the staff was something like "thanks for helping keep this site user friendly - the user's account has been disabled".
Exactly. Take action.
I dont need home work...i live life.(try it)
What do you mean wrong , thats my personal, practical view, and who are you to judge that as right or wrong. No one is being technical here..I guess but you. Must be a law student or something.
Anyway, my point is this:
People can and do say what they want. "period". Learn to deal with it. The more you let it affect you, the more it will. Lighten up, afterall, its online. And what is "abusive language" anyway, have you never been to a bar or pub Richie_and_Oprah, and hear something you thought was over the top, get over it. thicken up! sheesh!
I was just wondering if premium members are given carte blanche to say abusive things on this site, and, if so, does the management really think that this is ethical?