Express if you like or do not like the new version of the site

In V2, the engine tells you whether you are offering or claiming a draw.  In V3, it just says claim/offer.  Sometimes I would like to claim the draw, but I would feel awkward offering the draw.  Maybe V3 can learn from V2?  :-)

Thank you, prestonpapa, for bringing this discussion back to an objective one.

Hi, 

IN regard to the subject, I've not decided due to always switching back to the old version.  As far as I can see, there's only about 5 themes, which isn't enough for my personality. haha

Im neither sky NOR gothic, even though I'm willing to "try on" all of the themes.  

Another point is that I like using the analysis button on the games, which is a great aid to me. 

Perhaps I haven't given it enough of a try, but seems the features in v2 were pretty good. 

What I really don't like is the time response of chess.com in handling other problems here. 

Thanks for reading! 

v2 unlimited creative themes trumps even the variants of v3; that being said, "objectivity is overrated" - MVL

That has been part of the discussion but not the one presented by erik, and in fact he stated that was not the case. The whole thing was the site needed recoded to make it easier to work on and update. v3 was the result. He also is going to update to PHP7, do some database updates and modify the caching processes, all which will break v2.

The economics argument has come from other members, including me. If you have two large codebases to support, you are doubling your work when it comes to support and maintenance.

You can customize you theme some too. You can use the Custom option to use any piece set, board, and upload any background you want. If you use Chrome (coming to other browsers at some point from what has been said) you can theme more things, from your viewpoint, using the site's browser extension.

Martin, 

Thank you so much for this information! I forgot about that options.  

I'm hoping a fix for the pgns will be amongst the first...

In v2, downloaded games that were played in thematics contained all the moves with a statement therein saying "thematic game, this is the starting position".

In v3, the moves before the starting position are omitted, leading to database software classifying them similar to C960 with a "P" for a non-standard starting position. 

Chessbase can't classify the games as they should be, and i understand from others that their software can't run them at all...

2 months since this issue was brought to staff attention i would have thought it'd be fixed by now 

...and this also has to be amongst the first fixes...

I'm not sure I can see it. I'm looking at both versions, side-by-side. The percentage of white space on both is very similar. Without doing screenshots and measurements, I won't say there isn't a difference but there isn't a drastic one.

What is different is that the default background in v3 is darker than v2 and makes the white pop a lot more. I'm not seeing the background color in the CSS, on either version (for this forum page white-space), so it looks to me like that isn't defined on either side and should be the same.

 OK tested. Background whites are exactly the same; pure white RGB 255,255,255

For percentage of the screen, for the forums at least, white space is less on v3 for any page of sufficient length. The panel on the right doesn't extend down the whole page like it does on v2.

then it's likely to be the font...

That is probably due to how thematics are defined now. My guess is that they are just pushed through with the FEN position, which doesn't care about the starting move order. As long as the export includes the starting FEN, under the correct tag, I would think most software should load them.

Font sizes should be the same (if the poster doesn't change it). It looks like the default on both is 14 pixels, though in some places it is defined as 1.4rem (which is 14 px). I'm not finding a font-type definition, so I'm not sure on that one. Line height is the same.

There is a difference in font color. v3 is #26211b and v2 is #222222

Oh, found the fonts. v3 appears to be using, in order of browser support I think, Open Sans, Segoe UI, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif.

v2 is using Trebuchet MS, Ariel, sans serif.

jehova ,jehova ,jehova

nimzomalaysian wrote:

razzarainbow wrote:

Bottom line V3 is designed for [removed -- MOD] and bad rich players,so they can cheat and prognosicate,join the revolution that has been stolen vote V3 and enjoy plastic oceans

Mind your language.

That is not correct.  V2's support ended nearly two year ago.  V2's been 'unsupported' for as long.  There is no 'doubling of work'.

There isn't now, other than time answering support tickets and questions, but if the site is kept for normal usage, it will have support costs associated with it.

But you still have to suffer an all-black navigation bar

I dont have to suffer anything when it comes to playing a game of chess, NOR some theme. ITs only a game here, and only a gaming site.  ITs not a life threatening condition.