Holland isnt a country

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And now I own you all!

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gbidari wrote:

Ich bin ein Hollander!


Calling us german is indeed more insulting than calling me a hollander.

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DanaEileithyia wrote:
gbidari wrote:

Ich bin ein Hollander!


Calling us german is indeed more insulting than calling me a hollander.


i think he is making a joke about president kennedy's statement in Berlin in the 1960's where Kennedy messed up the German phrase.  so choosing to be offended would not be appropriate because it is a joke lighten up girl Cool.

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Jebcc wrote:
DanaEileithyia wrote:
gbidari wrote:

Ich bin ein Hollander!


Calling us german is indeed more insulting than calling me a hollander.


 

i think he is making a joke about president kennedy's statement in Berlin in the 1960's where Kennedy messed up the German phrase.  so choosing to be offended would not be appropriate because it is a joke lighten up girl .


I wasnt really offended Wink.

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Just search http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/holland   and you will find the exact meaning of this issue Hyves Krabbels

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I'm a New Yorker AND an American.  No contradiction.

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1st Team All-America, chess: Morphy, Capablanca, and Fischer.

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That's not the point. The point is that Holland is used to refer to the entire Netherlands, as when England is used to refer to Great Britain (or the entire United Kingdom).  That is incorrect.

Just as we don't have a New York nationality, there really shouldn't be a Holland one in the country list. For the historical countries of Great Britain (England, Scotland, Wales), it's a lot more complicated because they are in many ways autonomous and some sports recognise them as countries, while others do not.

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Or when "America" is used to refer to the U.S.A.: common colloquial usage, but technically incorrect.  It is technically correct, however, to call Capablanca a Cuban and an American, no contradiction.  Let's just all agree to agree.

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Puchiko wrote:

That's not the point. The point is that Holland is used to refer to the entire Netherlands, as when England is used to refer to Great Britain (or the entire United Kingdom).  That is incorrect.

Just as we don't have a New York nationality, there really shouldn't be a Holland one in the country list. For the historical countries of Great Britain (England, Scotland, Wales), it's a lot more complicated because they are in many ways autonomous and some sports recognise them as countries, while others do not.


That said, most Dutchmen from the rest of the country still have no trouble singing "Hup, Holland, Hup" at football matches. It's more pedantic to make the Holland/Netherlands distinction than the England/GB distinction.

The one exception I make is that I call the dialect spoken on TV "Hollands" rather than "Algemeen Beschaafd Nederlands". The dialects in the rest of the country are just as civilized as the one spoken in Haarlem, thank you very much...

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I think the Dutch lady wins. 

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UVF02368 wrote:

. . . I would like Minnesota to have it's own flag . . . 


This is your lucky day-- Minnesota does have its own flag.  It's up to you whether you want to fly it higher or lower on the mast than the U.S. flag.

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I doubt he's worried about legalities if his goal is to secede.  Besides, the code is advisory, with no penalties for non-compliance:

The United States Flag Code establishes advisory rules for display and care of the flag of the United States. It is Chapter 1 of Title 4 of the United States Code (4 U.S.C. § 1 et seq). This is a U.S. federal law, but there is no penalty for failure to comply with it and it is not widely enforced — indeed, the U.S. Supreme Courthas ruled that punitive enforcement would conflict with the First Amendmentright to freedom of speech. (wikipedia)

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You've been busy, but you missed one!  Cool

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Krabbels 

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What a stupid discussion, Holland Netherlands Dutch, Whatever. And South and North Holland does have a flag. I

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I have it on good authority that Holland = Netherlands.

Good authority: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-csGDoSSZyc

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they eat french fries with mayo in all the low countries its great and the mayo has all kinds of different flavors paarden vlees is also a local delicacy and its great!

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Netherlands or Holland, french fries with mayonaise - do the Dutch call them pom frits? - let's get down to the important things. What are the best places for legal marijuana and hookers?

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heinzie is from "THE Netherlands", not from "Netherlands"