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arigalt

Well it's funny for losing a few games, now I can't play anymore on any tournaments, I went on vacation last week and can't get to my computer on time and lost all my 10 games for a few minutes.

I will be better if the timeout ration to play on the tournaments would be a little more then 15%.

but why not add a filter on the tournament page so you can view the ones thats has a diferent timeout ratio, beacause the director of the tournament could change it for 15%.

Thanks a lot, 

TadDude

Rather than raising the limit perhaps the rule could be 10% in the last say 50 games completed so players can realistically regain their tournament eligibility.

Another idea is to restrict those with marginal timeout problems, 11% to 15%, to tournaments of 10 day and 14 days per move. 


Loomis
What? There are consequences for the things we do in life? No way.
BigHogDogg
There is a "go on vacation" feature on this website.
rednblack
I have to agree with the other sentiments.  That sucks, Arigalt that you got burned on this.  I had a similar thing happen today on Facebook chess, but that's what happens sometimes.  Play more games and you'll get back up there.
demuxer

is the timeouts value a default restriction??

in the meaning its a 'not configurable' feature when you create a tournament??

I cant see that parameter when you create a T., only about time/move, rating, etc.

that really sucks if you cant join any tournament 


Niven42
Happened to me too.  After thinking about it, I realized that your rating is NOT "points", but is more like an indication of your relative skill.  So the best advice is to Resign all your games before you leave.  Yes, you will lose "points", but you will get them all back quickly when you return.  It's much better than having to face a 16% timeout (8 more games and I'm in the clear, though Smile).
Jythier
Or use the vacation feature previously mentioned. :)  You have 1 month and 9 days of vacation time, use it when you're on vacation. :)
God2
i think the tounament rule should change a little...dont prevent who had "10% time out" to join the game..
Ipslne
Honestly, this site has features that allow you to control the time limits in your games, including a heafty vacation time per year. If you're not getting to your games on time, or not able to switch to "vacation," than you must deal with the consquences. the 10% timeout ratio is great in my opinion. If it were any higher, we'd have even more games won/lost due to timeouts in tournaments (which, frankly, can be quite a bummer when you're expecting a good challenge).
arigalt

Well why not put a filter button or something so the people can search for games with a diferent timeout ratio, not only for the max players and things like that.

dtbarne

I agree that the timeout issue is a problem.  Mine doesn't affect me for tournament play, but it just kind of sucks.  I've got two timeouts, and they're due to me having significant issues come up in real life that kept me from getting on to do my moves.  Not a big issue to me, but I can certainly sympathize.

aristeidis9

Yes the timeouts IS a problem for the tournaments.A problem that i cannot understand why exists..Sometimes the vacation time is not enough for different reasons.The only solution is to resign the games,but then you may don't know how long will you miss and also sometime ago there wasn't this adjustment for the tournaments..Besides where is the problem if your opponent timeouts?There are so many players and so many games going on so a timeouts are worthless..

MM78
arigalt wrote:

Well it's funny for losing a few games, now I can't play anymore on any tournaments, I went on vacation last week and can't get to my computer on time and lost all my 10 games for a few minutes.

I will be better if the timeout ration to play on the tournaments would be a little more then 15%.

Thanks a lot, 


 You lost a few games (6?) when you went on vacation last week; these would not have caused you to have a greater than 10% time out ratio. What caused that was the other 34 games you timed out on since you signed up.   I've been in tournaments which were ruined by time outs like gonnusuke mentioned and you need to consider the effect on other people.  You knew you were going on vacation, why didn 't you use the vacation feature?

gramos9956

Timeout ratio limits can be adjusted by the tournament directors.  Maybe you can ask the director of a tournanment you are interested in joining if they can adjust the ratio so you can register.  One person who wanted to play in one of my tournaments had the same problem, and I was able to adjust the timeout ratio so that he could register.

Good luck!

Ray_Brooks
arigalt wrote:

Well it's funny for losing a few games, now I can't play anymore on any tournaments, I went on vacation last week and can't get to my computer on time and lost all my 10 games for a few minutes.

I will be better if the timeout ration to play on the tournaments would be a little more then 15%.

Thanks a lot, 


What is very funny, is your request that the time-out percentage be raised. Suppose your wish were granted, and players up to 15% were okay to join tournaments. What are you going to say to the next guy who whines that he is a marginal case at 16%? Extend this to 20%? Where would it end?.... "I'm a marginal case at 99%"... okay, make it 100% time-out ratio! (reductio ad absurdum).

 

10% is the measure (a very generous one in my opinion) and  you've fallen foul of this statistic, live with it.

p.s. Others have suggested it, but I'm asking you directly, arigalt... why exactly didn't you set your account to vacation?

aristeidis9
gramos9956 wrote:

Timeout ratio limits can be adjusted by the tournament directors.  Maybe you can ask the director of a tournanment you are interested in joining if they can adjust the ratio so you can register.  One person who wanted to play in one of my tournaments had the same problem, and I was able to adjust the timeout ratio so that he could register.

Good luck!


This is the most reasonable solution,i have done this already (asked a director of a tournament)

Gonosukke said:a competitor won two cheap timeout victories thereby giving him the points needed to advance to the next round.I says:the competitorS so everyone gets advantadge(gonosukke's clause has meaning only if there are 2 persons at a group)

Lurkey

They really should adjust this. I haven't been able to play in a tournament because I lost three matches to time because I was still new to the site at the time and didn't understand how online chess matches worked. It should be "complete X amount of games OR have a timeout rating less than 15%"

xMenace
Lurkey wrote:

They really should adjust this. I haven't been able to play in a tournament because I lost three matches to time because I was still new to the site at the time and didn't understand how online chess matches worked. It should be "complete X amount of games OR have a timeout rating less than 15%"


No it doesn't need to be more lax. If anything, it should be tougher, say 5% or less. A well run and fair tournament is far more important than letting in people with a high likelyhood of quitting. Current dropout rates in the big open tourneys are way too high already. I could accept 10% or less on the last 50 games played, but this still wouldn't help you. There's only one way to prove you won't quit: don't quit!

dec_lan

Wow. Just did the math, gonna have to play 51 more games to be able to play in tournaments. Cool.

 

Sometimes it's not vacation, sometimes your computer dies and you don't have  access to another one. Or, you're in a 1 day game, and something totally unexpected happens that takes all day.