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What did we just witness??? I've never seen a game like this. A piece of my chess world has been turned on its head.
I feel certain that Carlsen's moves in this game were nigh-suicidal. Anand played almost all the moves I wanted him to play/would play myself. And then in 25 moves he had already lost???
Here is my video analysis of the game, where for 2+ hours, I'm unable to crack the insane new way Carlsen played this game:
And here's a pgn viewer for the game and variations discussed above:
Hope that leaves everyone else as excited, tantalized, and satisfied as me!
@pdela ... Uh, right ... the OFFENSIVE SIDE does all the work. That's a ridiculous assertion which you're good enough to know is nonsense. The irony of this stupendous game was that even though Anand did all the attacking, his best continuations after the axb, axb, RxR sequence led, on all machines, to burnt out positions where Anand was always about a third of a pawn behind. Indeed, had the mass trading occurred and each side would have had Q, R, B, and two pawns, Anand's king would have been the more exposed when all is said and done. However, Anand blundered before we got to see Carlsen's coming counterattack which was a sequence of forcing moves.
Took a while to find this I misremembered it a bit, of course.
Game 17, first WC Match with Botvinnik, from "Tal Botvinnik 1960 pg 178 Russel Enterprises English Edition" Tal's move 12 f4 (Tal give it a ?!)
"Funny as it sounds, during such a crucial game, this question popped into my mind: "I wonder if my wife and I will have time to go the movies or the theatre?"
she has reason
with the combination on the e-file to trade all the pieces?
when you say "high level games," do you mean games that are played really well, or games that have a lot of tactics?
hmmm I am only a Class B player myself but I just keep expecting some serious high level games from this tournament and I just don't see it yet! The only one was more or less interesting to watch (tactics wise) was #8.
yeah, throwing in Rb2 is slightly annoying for black. f6 is very commital and definitely seemed not to be best. but when I looked at 24.Nh5 it was unconvincing. perhaps this Qh4 is better.
as to 20.a4 v axb4 v f5-- i have no idea!! :-)
I want to see the face of anand again,, I know this game was really disapointing for him.. Lol
i did not know that, Eternal Patzer. i can't find a source on the internet. it's my favorite quote either way, but i'd love to hear more about the original story :-)
fun stuff! according to my analysis 24.f6 was the key inaccuracy. then it's difficult for White. 18.Rb2!? is the safe try for a small edge. 20.f5 gains a tempo at least but not enough for more than a draw it seems to me.
and 20.a4! i expect really is the strongest. white establishes a strong positional edge there.
David - Isn't "I was thinking of what I was going to eat for dinner" a famous quote of Tal's? My guess is that Vishy knew that
or you will have to learn to love Endgames :-)
yeah it seems Carlsen will bore me for a dozen years, 12 years a bore hopefully less that 100 years of boredom
yeah, Carlsen was lucky Anand had no mate and he has a resource available all the time. If Anand played all the moves David wanted him to do we have an explanation of why Anand lost. David is not match for Carlsen. I don't deny Carlsen quality, but his endgames skills had mellowed his style. And if not for Anand looking for a win (guy may be a bit oxidate in how this is done) we would have had another game with nothing happening
very nice video. Anand is almost done.
it's surprising that there would be any Carlsen nay-sayers left. he's obviously in a league of his own, after a period 2000-2010 where the top several players were always very closely matched, and it seemed that nobody would ever "dominate" again with so many amazing talented players working so hard at the game.
As an addendum to my comment just made ... the Carlsen naysayers cannot say he did not see the end result of b2 unless they also think that he did not see the very lengthy end results of his endgame tactics in games 5 and 6. To the "Carlsen is lucky" camp, I say ... I have some swampland in Arizona to sell you. :)
How many times must it be repeated, Carlsen was not "lucky". Every engine had Anand nursing a small disadvantage right up to the blunder. There was no mate ... at any point. Carlsen's defense in the face of a blistering attack was so coldblooded that it was "Petrosian-esque". If Vishy had played Bf1 then after Qd1 and Qh5, the position would, after about 8 moves, have burned itself out to a position where each side had a Queen, a rook, and two pawns with no danger of EITHER side really winning. After the RxQ, pxR then Carlsen would have sacrificed his N on e8 for two pawns ... the f and g ones. End result? Equal material, dry endgame.
Props to Vishy for finally "playing like a man" but Carlsen's "just in time" defense was extremely impressive. He had to see the endgame mentioned above when he played b2 ... HAD to. I'm NOT a "Carlsen fanatic". I'm an excellence fanatic.
yeah, it is a bit out of context. To be exact I don't know 'what the ...' you are talking about :'(
it's my favorite chess quote now :-) i'm going to be abusing it.
what about the dinner? please, someone calls the doctor, a case of craziness
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