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So what are you trying to tell us, Mr. Computer ? - part 2

This is the follow-up to my previous blog article. If you haven't read it yet, I recommend you start there to know the full story.

Here is the position that I offered as an exercise in the first article. I invited people to play the black side against an engine, then use the engine as an analysis tool, and try again.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Some people managed to draw at their very first attempt, some others at the second. Congratulations, as this was really no easy task !

I first saw this position in one of Lars Bo Hansen's excellent works. Here, he quoted GM Seïrawan's analysis of the position :

"It wouldn't take a human Grandmaster -especially as Black vs. Kramnik - many seconds to play 18...Bxf3! here, after which a draw can be soon agreed".

Are really the opposite-colors bishops so drawish ? Looks like it is (as many readers correctly mentioned in the initial blog post). I managed to draw against the engine without too much trouble, so this is a powerful concept indeed...

 

Now, the engines would just not play Bxf3 in this position, as they value bishops higher than Knights, and have no problems drawing as black anwyay. But from a human perspective, I find Seïrawan's piece of wisdom extremely valuable...

Comments


  • 15 months ago

    deepmac

    Chess is, in essence, a game for children. Computers have exacerbated the trends towards youth because they now have an immensely powerful tool at their disposal and can absorb vast amounts of information extremely quickly.

  • 15 months ago

    Grodalo

    awesome article, really enjoyed it... i wish you'd make a part three!

  • 15 months ago

    Sabevissia

    Thanks for the article, just helps to remind us of some simple key points/guidelines to remember lol ;). Helps save us time as we can't calculate in the share numbers as these machines can in the instant they can do it. 

  • 15 months ago

    Elubas

    Houdini is just like "I'm too good to force a draw (...Bxf3), no one can beat me anyway!" Gotta love the confidence of an engine :P

  • 15 months ago

    hicetnunc

    @Chocolate : showing that humans can beat or draw computers is absolutely not the point of my article - I wanted to highlight how some kind of general knowledge can help humans better than computer lines in many non-tactical situations.

    Please have a look at the first part for the whole story Smile

  • 15 months ago

    deepmac

    naa just see what computer telling us 

  • 15 months ago

    PooPooPerson

    @ deepmac: u mad bro?

  • 15 months ago

    ChocolateTeapot

    I come across many articles like this one, pointing out areas in which humans can still beat computers. They all seem to ignore the fact that chess programs are evolving at a phenomenal pace. I am not sure what pressures are driving this evolution, but the evidence is inescapable. I confidently predict that in 5 years time all computer programs will know all the rules that humans can teach them, simply on Darwinian principles.

  • 15 months ago

    gpobernardo

    Smile

  • 15 months ago

    deepmac

    anyways if you want to see the game of engines vs engine and engines vs humans go to chess uters app 

  • 15 months ago

    deepmac

    computer : my mind is much better than any human in this world 

    human: tell you what computer after 500 years our mind will be much better than you see you in trash mr computer

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