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Colle-Zuckertort a Mainline

Here's a fairly straight forward line in the Colle-Zuckertort.  The interesting thing in this line are black's attempts to capture the light squared bishop.  These are all tacticts I've been victimized by in the past.  b6 followed by Ba6, Nb4 when the bishop can't retreat to e2, and the odd Nh5 with the very concrete idea of Nf4 forking the bishop and the queen.  In the position below white has avoided those attempts and is ready to play Ne5, c4, Rac1 with some advantage.


  • 5 years ago


    Catalyst, the specific recommendation is to play about 15 moves into an opening but never a whole game against a computer.  A live person would be fine as well but most people then want to play a whole game which OTB during the week I don't have the time for.  Online yes, chess.com has more options and some Colle and Pirc afficanados so that training method would work as well. 

    Overall the general idea is to get to learning the mainlines that might come up.  Ise Shredder and sometimes Fritz, though Fritz seems a little more likely to make odd moves.  The computer also has the benefit of playing a random opening.  If i play d4 it can answer many ways. 

    The best way to summarize is that the primary thing I train every day is tactics 30 minutes or so.  In addition then I do endgames, opening lines, and study positions where I have made mistakes previously.  With 1 hour on weekdays and maybe a little more on weekends it's very hard to find a human player after 30 minutes of tactics.  It's very easy to play 15 minutes two times against a computer and see how well the opening goes.  The computer doesn't care that we don't finish the game, and it's not going to make any tactical blunders.

    I hope it explains it a little better,

  • 5 years ago


    Training 15 or so moves into an opening against engines is a recommendatin by my coach.  Since I pay him, and since the advice on chess.com may be great but it's also free, I listen to my coach in this regard.  Plus he has a ot more experience than most on here Smile

    But even playing best moves, I feel fine in Colle when black play e6.  What is challenging is finding alternate development plans against g6 and Bf5/Bg4.  The early bishop moves almost force c4 and sometimes Qb3 with even positions. But I can also tell you that I have played one game so far where my opponent actually played best theory for 15 moves and that was a 1800 rated player who must study the Colle as well.

    To answer your question Nc6 and Bd6 would be met by Ne5.  Unless back pays an Indian set up with g6 or Bxf3 in another line then I always aim to restrain e5 so I can play in the center/kingside attack versus black on the queenside.  If black plays with tghe light squared bishop out like a slav then I set up normally and aim for e4. 

  • 5 years ago


    This is one line amongst many and certainly not the best.  It came up in a training session against the computer that I do for my openings.  This line isn't really intended as theory, it's more demonstrative of the three common methods black uses to try and win the light squared bishop.  Black has other threats like playing for e5, usually prevented by Ne5 f4, and then pressure coming up the c file and the b8 diagnoal Bd6-Qc7 and Rc8.  But white can anticipate and counter these threats and thus get a known and understood position into move 20 even against a computer.  That it is the point for me of playing the Colle-Z and related systems.  I can focus on the middle game.

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