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Are we doing enough to stop cheating?


  • 3 years ago · Quote · #61

    platolag

    aanker wrote:

    Something serious needs to be done...  100% agree with myrook.  Ban for life!

    myrook wrote:

    Get caught cheating...gone! .....Ban for life! .......  A 2 year ban would only encourage cheaters to be more careful. Once caught, it's over for them any way!


    Cheaters deserves nothing less than a life time ban. How can anybody bring such a noble game into disrepute?

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #62

    the_cheradenine

    platolag wrote:
    aanker wrote:

    Something serious needs to be done...  100% agree with myrook.  Ban for life!

    myrook wrote:

    Get caught cheating...gone! .....Ban for life! .......  A 2 year ban would only encourage cheaters to be more careful. Once caught, it's over for them any way!


    Cheaters deserves nothing less than a life time ban. How can anybody bring such a noble game into disrepute?


    I still think that the punishment could not realistically be so severe, since there is also a possibility of false accusations and politics - at least in big tournaments and world championship matches... this could even tear apart some federations - if a part of it does not believe that some respectable GM cheated and they continue playing with him and organize tournaments on their own, etc... it's a recipe for disaster. So I agree with one of the previous posts that such bans should be enforced only after/if the act is repeated in the future - and the punishment for a single cheating act should be something less - but also severe enough to discourage people from trying to cheat.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #63

    afcwheels

    ACEChess wrote:

    There was a forum topic on this I saw yesterday, which partly inspired me to ask the question in my recent Chess News video on our YouTube channel... but I can't find that forum anywhere, so I just figured I post a new topic ...

    So, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uiyc_lGHdw&list=UU5kS0l76kC0xOzMPtOmSFGw&index=1&feature=plcp

    are we doing enough???

    I personally feel a lifetime ban for almost anything is a little harsh, but maybe I am a softy??? I would be in favor a a "title stripping" and a 3 year ban (maybe 2 years with rehabilitation requirements).

    Whatcha guys think of that?

     

    [Please be careful. This topic is about OTB cheating otherwise it would be locked. Moderator]


     define what you mean by cheating? in chess its almost impossible to cheat...thats why chess is such a good sport for kids because you learn lessons by losing fairly...

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #64

    jesterville

    define what you mean by cheating? in chess its almost impossible to cheat...thats why chess is such a good sport for kids because you learn lessons by losing fairly...

    ..............................................................................................

    LOL What planet are you from?

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #65

    Optimum225

    chrisr2212 wrote:
    pcor111090 wrote:

    do you know what i feel like is cheating? when low rated players like myself are trying to follow openings that are provided by chess.com (which i think is fantasitc) and the other player does not follow the opening and does some random move that throws me off leaving me confused on what to do!!!!! thats cheating haha


    Haha! excellent!


    :) Chris, this is such a sweet comment. haha  Man, I wished i knew all the openings by the book but I don't.  How can that be cheating? I have learned a few things about openings, and one is....I can't remmber each opening..there's too many!  Don't hate me for it. :p

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #66

    corrijean

    Are you new here? I think Optimum is not a dude.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #67

    Crosspinner

    pcor111090 wrote:

    do you know what i feel like is cheating? when low rated players like myself are trying to follow openings that are provided by chess.com (which i think is fantasitc) and the other player does not follow the opening and does some random move that throws me off leaving me confused on what to do!!!!! thats cheating haha


     This is hiiarious.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #68

    Optimum225

    Corrijean, thanks alot! :) It really doesn't matter if ppl think I'm a woman or a man, MOST of the time.  I reckon a picture of a rock doesn't help any.  haha

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #69

    Optimum225

    Guess?

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #70

    corrijean

    It's a roc. :) No a dodo. The largest flightless pigeon ever.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #71

    Optimum225

    Weren't they strange looking?!  :)

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #72

    Optimum225

    chrisr2212 wrote:
    corrijean wrote:

    Are you new here? I think Optimum is not a dude.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSHaCzb3yYk


    Lol !!!  That was so good.  That was really funny, Chris!  :)

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #73

    corrijean

    Good one. Sealed

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #75

    pcor111090

    yeah back to the topic....For a first time offense I think a one to two year ban is a good idea and i think that if they have a FIDE rating or a masters title, that it should all be disregarded and that person should start from scratch. Because up to this point all their games are in question and there is way to find out which games they cheated in so it should all be disregarded and the player should have to start over....For a second offense i just think a permanent ban is what they deserve i mean come on if you get caught and punished and you do it again you are obviously determined to cheat so whats another light punishment going to do?

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #76

    Conflagration_Planet

    pcor111090 wrote:

    yeah back to the topic....For a first time offense I think a one to two year ban is a good idea and i think that if they have a FIDE rating or a masters title, that it should all be disregarded and that person should start from scratch. Because up to this point all their games are in question and there is way to find out which games they cheated in so it should all be disregarded and the player should have to start over....For a second offense i just think a permanent ban is what they deserve i mean come on if you get caught and punished and you do it again you are obviously determined to cheat so whats another light punishment going to do?


     That makes sense.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #77

    Bodhiwan

    I'm a noob here and by far not even close to most of you guys here in terms of experience etc, but I got interested when reading the topic and read some of the news and wiki's on it. (i.e. bare with me for being the noob with a strong opinion). Since it's pretty clear that these guys know what they are doing, and when evidence is solid, I'd say ban 'em from all competitions for a VERY long time. I can only imagine the stress it puts to their opponent having played someone who cheats. Not only related to the event but every competition after that, being affected by that experience to have to consider the possibility of an opponent cheating. Not to mention how it would spread to others involved and the chess community.

    I believe in second chances, very much so, but in this case I have no problem with even a life-time ban in clear-cut cases on a high level of competition. Who would want to play this guy anyway, should they come back after a couple of years? What's that bulge in your pocket dude, is it a phone or do you really just love playing chess? Meh...

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #78

    salenium

    AmaurosisScacchisti wrote:

    Id also be interested in cracking down in false accusations of cheating, they damage the integrity of the game almost as much as actual cheating and make it tough for non-chess players to take the game seriously when such mud can be flung with impunity. For example the false charges against Anna Rudolf or the accusations in 2006 championship, if i was in charge the accusers would be stripped of titles and given a 1 year ban or some such. But also tournaments need to be played in secure facilities impenetrable to communications devices, although signal jamming is illegal in the states so some sort of bunker might be called for...

    The cheaters will get good at making false accusations.  They will do this patially to see what steps are taken to stop cheating.

  • 18 months ago · Quote · #79

    Narz

    Lifetime ban & stripped of title.


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