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M-W-R

Ok thanks guys, I've decided to learn the Slav! Thanks everyone!

chessNcracker

good idea cuz of this nonsense

M-W-R

I don't get what you mean..Undecided

asmund_hammerstad

Its just that how did you arrive on the slav? Not from the discussion above or?

M-W-R

I looked at all the suggestions given to me here, and decided Slav works pretty good for me.

caesarsecundus

I prefer the classical Dutch!



Seraphimity
M-W-R wrote:

Ok thanks guys, I've decided to learn the Slav! Thanks everyone!

I have very good success with it.  I am currently studying GM games looking for games and variations where you do not kingside castles but push the g pawn. 

M-W-R
Seraphimity wrote:
M-W-R wrote:

Ok thanks guys, I've decided to learn the Slav! Thanks everyone!

I have very good success with it.  I am currently studying GM games looking for games and variations where you do not kingside castles but push the g pawn. 


So do you castle queenside or not castle at all?

Nimzoduh

If your opponent plays 1. d4, you should resign.  Your position is hopeless.

LesMiserables

Best defence to 1. d4 is to escape unoticed through the bathroom window.

M-W-R

d4 can be pretty deadly if you don't know the basic theory.

Seraphimity
M-W-R wrote:
Seraphimity wrote:
M-W-R wrote:

Ok thanks guys, I've decided to learn the Slav! Thanks everyone!

I have very good success with it.  I am currently studying GM games looking for games and variations where you do not kingside castles but push the g pawn. 


So do you castle queenside or not castle at all?

It's naturally complicated and up to the game.  Some factors for the push to be useable involve moving the knight on f3/f6 to e5/4 respectively.  you want to have good control of the e file.  Also the queen either has not moved or is now f3/f6 and you will want to put your rook on g1/g8.  The white bishop is often reserved as a missle/sacrifice of sorts to begin the kingside attack.  By this time O-O-O may not be needed as the endgame coming close and your kingside is going to be very active.  So to answer it depends on the game, but actually I have found that normally yes I do castle.  Agian just moving the king up one to perhaps add support to a minor piece or pawn could be better and still get your rooks communicating.  I just realized I play systems which can be used by either side which is why I listed squares for for white or black.  I'll try and find a GM game for better understanding and post later

M-W-R
Seraphimity wrote:
M-W-R wrote:
Seraphimity wrote:
M-W-R wrote:

Ok thanks guys, I've decided to learn the Slav! Thanks everyone!

I have very good success with it.  I am currently studying GM games looking for games and variations where you do not kingside castles but push the g pawn. 


So do you castle queenside or not castle at all?

It's naturally complicated and up to the game.  Some factors for the push to be useable involve moving the knight on f3/f6 to e5/4 respectively.  you want to have good control of the e file.  Also the queen either has not moved or is now f3 and you will want to put your rook on g1/g8.  The white bishop is often reserved as a missle of sorts to beging the kingside attack.  By this time O-O-O may not be needed as the endgame coming close and your kingside is going to be very active.  So to answer it depends on the game, but acgtually I have found that normally yes I do castle.  Agian just moving the king up one to perhaps add support to a minor piece or pawn could be better and still get your rooks communicating.  I just realized I play systems which can be used by either side which is why I gave squares for each side.  I'll try and find a GM game for better understanding and post later


This variation looks pretty interesting...I think I'll try it out!

OldHastonian
RybkaShredder wrote:

I personally think the Dutch is an incorrect opening. If everyone played the Dutch, I would play d4 all the time. There are a lot of good lines against it. 2. Bg5 is a very underestimated move with lots of attaking chances for white. 2. Nf3 followed by 3. Bg5 is another good line recommended by Roman Dzindzichashvili which gives very good piece play for white. There are also some very annoying gambits which are very annoying. The Staunton Gambit 1. d4 f5 2. e4. And the Krejcik Gambit can be very annoying with 1.d4 f5 2. g4. Also, Korchnoi's line is interesting 1. d4 f5 2. h3 followed by g4 with play similar to the Krejcik Gambit. Therefore I conclude that the Dutch isn't a correct opening

This is superficial crap, expertly analysed down to 3 half-moves.

Mainline_Novelty
RybkaShredder wrote:

I personally think the Dutch is an incorrect opening. If everyone played the Dutch, I would play d4 all the time. There are a lot of good lines against it. 2. Bg5 is a very underestimated move with lots of attaking chances for white. 2. Nf3 followed by 3. Bg5 is another good line recommended by Roman Dzindzichashvili which gives very good piece play for white. There are also some very annoying gambits which are very annoying. The Staunton Gambit 1. d4 f5 2. e4. And the Krejcik Gambit can be very annoying with 1.d4 f5 2. g4. Also, Korchnoi's line is interesting 1. d4 f5 2. h3 followed by g4 with play similar to the Krejcik Gambit. Therefore I conclude that the Dutch isn't a correct opening

I love it when people share the exact same beliefs as me :P

AAA117

NImzo Indian

mencikdavid

Volga gambit 

asmund_hammerstad

It takes a special effort to make such discussions of any kind of practical use. As usual one has to think for oneself..

konhidras

The best defense for d4 and e4 is planning, complete view of the board, alertness and perseverance.

Bubble1997

cest trop difficile de jouer cet ouverture