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Yereslov

This can't be good...

gambiteer12

5. Qg4 is the Russian variation of the winawer. Play usually continues 5...Ne7 6.dxc5 Nbc6 7.Bd2 O-O or 7.Qxg7 Rg8 8.Qh6 Bxc3+ 

Yereslov
gambiteer12 wrote:

5. Qg4 is the Russian variation of the winawer. Play usually continues 5...Ne7 6.dxc5 Nbc6 7.Bd2 O-O or 7.Qxg7 Rg8 8.Qh6 Bxc3+ 

I know how play continues. It's the opening I play most often.

That doesn't answer the question.

GreenCastleBlock
Yereslov wrote:

That doesn't answer the question.

Which was?

Yereslov
GreenCastleBlock wrote:
Yereslov wrote:

That doesn't answer the question.

Which was?

Can you read context?

What are the flaws?

Yereslov
AnthonyCG wrote:

8.Nf3 seems fine. Black can't castle kingside because of h4 and if he tries to go to the queenside then Qf4 puts too much pressure on f6.

There is no tactical reason Black can't play this.

Actually it's a huge blunder as players 500 points above you have shown. There is nothing safe about this.

I would have analyzed this with Rybka, but it seems to have trouble with the French Defense.

Yereslov
AnthonyCG wrote:
Yereslov wrote:
AnthonyCG wrote:

8.Nf3 seems fine. Black can't castle kingside because of h4 and if he tries to go to the queenside then Qf4 puts too much pressure on f6.

There is no tactical reason Black can't play this.

Actually it's a huge blunder as players 500 points above you have shown. There is nothing safe about this.

I would have analyzed this with Rybka, but it seems to have trouble with the French Defense.

The fact that it is bad does not change the fact that you can't punish it outright. As I said there is no tactical refutation and you must simply try and take advantage of the weaknesses.

And the horizon effect is going to confuse Rybka every time in these closed positions. You need to be able to guide it to the right plan so that it can find the best moves. Otherwise it will simply putter around until it finds a tactical reason for why it's already flawed moves fail.

I never asked if there is some tactical refutation. I asked whether it was weak and how to expose the weakness.

Yereslov
Estragon wrote:

It's a joke line.  Black plays 5...Ne7 and he is fine.  Here, the pawn is pretty clearly poison.

Why don't you try that against some 2400-2600 FIDE rated player. 

It's definitely a weakness.

Yereslov
AnthonyCG wrote:

You don't even know why as you have already mentioned multiple times. So it seems to me that whatever information you do have, no matter how advanced it may be, is completely useless as you can't even utilize it in your own games.

This is the point that you omit in every one of your posts. It is this rampant dogmatism that is the most annoying thing about opening discussion. If you can't prove it yourself then does it matter? Because theory and practice are two completely different things.

So you can either continue to nag about things that you obviously do not understand or you can actually listen to people that for some reason still care to help you.

I am a far better player than you will ever be, so why don't you piss off?

It doesn't take chess knowledge to sense a bad move. In the end this "sixth sense" is what makes great players, not an endless supply of chess theory.

Yereslov
AnthonyCG wrote:

If you can't prove it's bad then it doesn't matter.

Of couse you have every right to be an armchair GM.

Have a nice day.

It doesn't take a GM to notice a basic king weakness.

Yereslov
AnthonyCG wrote:
Yereslov wrote:
AnthonyCG wrote:

If you can't prove it's bad then it doesn't matter.

Of couse you have every right to be an armchair GM.

Have a nice day.

It doesn't take a GM to notice a basic king weakness.

That has nothing to do with what I typed. You're trolling and I'm done.

You have trouble reading and understanding.

Yereslov
pfren wrote:

5.Qg4 is good only for blitz/rapid , and 5...g6 a stupid answer.

Of course the right move is 5...Ne7, when Black is fine after both 6.dc5 and 6.Qxg7.

So how do you punish 5...g6?

Yereslov

The Wonderful Winawer reccomends 5. Qg4.

It provides plenty of analysis to support the opening.

Yereslov
pfren wrote:
Yereslov wrote:

The Wonderful Winawer reccomends 5. Qg4.

It provides plenty of analysis to support the opening.

In that case, there must be your reading issues.

Moskalenko does not mention 5...g6 at all, of course, but instead gives 5...Ne7, and resumes that this variation can only frighten "weak players, or kids". I believe you belong to both categories, so it scares you to death.

Regards.

I never said he mentioned 5...g6. And where did he ever say that?

Tons of GM's and IM's play this opening with no issue.

Yereslov

Chess.com:

276 Games in Database (view games )

RESULT:

48.19%   32.61%

ChessGames.com:

 move games white wins - draws - black wins %
5...Ne7  139

36%

25.9%

38.1%
5...Kf8  15

53.3%

40%
5...cxd4  3

100%
5...g6  2

50%

50%

ChessTempo:

Candidate Moves 
Move # Most Recent Av/Perf/Max Rating White Win/Draw/Black Win
5...Ne7 326
2012 2404/2363/2764
38% 31.3% 30.7%
5...Kf8 8
2008 2406/2305/2640
62.5% 12.5% 25%
5...g6 6
2011 2357/2291/2450
50% 16.7% 33.3%
Related Openings 
Yereslov

It seems to do very well.

Yereslov
SpiritofGalviyodog wrote:

I am a far better player than you will ever be, so why don't you piss off?

.....just lol.

yereslov, i suggest you take off your premium membership if you're going to troll since you don't get your money back if your account is closed.

You might want to actually look up "trolling" on Google. 

You're upset and found a new word to vent your anger.

Yereslov
SpiritofGalviyodog wrote:

you're no different than my former beings on chess.com. you keep posting weak stuff, claim you're a very strong player, use computer analysis incorrectly, give diagrams and yet, your rating hasn't passed 1400.

btw your latest 'database'-you should clearly know why the 'statistics' about g6 are ...bad.

I never said 5...g6 was good.



Yereslov
Estragon wrote:
Yereslov wrote:
Estragon wrote:

It's a joke line.  Black plays 5...Ne7 and he is fine.  Here, the pawn is pretty clearly poison.

Why don't you try that against some 2400-2600 FIDE rated player. 

It's definitely a weakness.

My 152k database of recent games since 2007 has over 9600 Frenches, and only 5 where a 2400 player plays 5 g4 - no examples of a 2500+ playing it, so it would apparently be difficult to achieve your challenge.

Using database stats from online playing sites proves you know as little about statistics as you evidently know about chess.

Actually, I know more about chess than the average person, just no so much about openings.

chesspooljuly13

The average person doesn't play chess, so I believe you're correct, yereslov ol' bean