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defenserulz

Say you're studying the Sicialian Najdorf and use a particular variation of it.  How many moves deep do you study typically on average?  ...10, 15, 20, 20+?

ToddA10

20? Christ man. I think the Ruy Lopez is the only one I've gone more than 5 deep on. 

ChessPatzer987
ToddA10 wrote:

20? Christ man. I think the Ruy Lopez is the only one I've gone more than 5 deep on. 

Haha! Actually, common openings such as the Ruy Lopez and the Sicilian Defense are analyzed well beyond move 20!

chesster3145

In my case, 7-9, just so I know the defining moves of the Sicilian and where to go from there.

PossibleOatmeal

It varies by individual line.  Some lines I know only 8 or 9 moves in, some I know 25.  I try to end my lines when it is clearly a middle game and the position is quiet.  The line I use for opening/middlegame is: "are all of the pieces developed and the rooks connected?

vacation4me

I typically play four or five moves than move into my own non-award winning variation.

SJFG

As Black I play the Caro-Kann and the Slav defense. In the Caro-Kann the deepest line I know is 15 moves, although I have an idea of the middle game plans. Most lines I might know to about 10 moves. It's probably the same with the Slav.

As White I play the English and probably don't know any lines more than 10 moves deep, but know quite a few opening plans and ideas.

You should know enough lines not to get into trouble (how many depends a lot on your level), but generally people don't need to know much theory. They key is to learn middle game plans and ideas.

Spectator94

As for me quite a lot because I also want to understand the arising middlegames well

vacation4me

What about variation lines?  Do you study (or memorize) these, too?  I have found that there are way too many and end up trying to play sound chess principles.

rsb63

Playing at a 1057 rating my opinion is the Najdorf is well beyond your level. I would suggest learning something much less theoretical. It isn't only memorizing the moves but more importantly understanding the reason behind the moves

Spectator94

I take a look at pretty much every sensible move/idea, but try to memorize only the main lines.

vacation4me
rsb63 wrote:

Playing at a 1057 rating my opinion is the Najdorf is well beyond your level. I would suggest learning something much less theoretical.

I agree.  Maybe learn the first three moves as to not have a quick mate and then play your own personal line.  You will find by trial and error what works

2travel

memorising opening lines and reproducing them in games requires no chess ability

JGambit

If a move both strikes me as strong and surprises me then I will look it up after the game.

There are lines that will blow my Najdorf out of the water but my level opponent normally dont know them deeper than I do.

Ben_Dubuque

Not very deep. I know a few lines to move 12ish but not many. I tend to know 4-5 moves deep in the lines I play. I do have a decent amount of expierenced in the kings gambit simply because I have OTB and online around 4-500 games in it

ilikecapablanca

I usually know about 5.

Diakonia

I made it to USCF A class without any serious opening study.  

chess_dashing

Normally 10 to 12 moves in single variation...And watching 2-3 games of that variation...And in one opening i prepare 5 -6  main variation and single variation include 4-5 sub variation...

Ben_Dubuque

Yeah I'm the opposite. My improvements come when I fix a technique issue. Recently I had a huge improvement when I started practicing being more patient with positions and not blindly attacking

X_PLAYER_J_X
BettorOffSingle wrote:
Diakonia wrote:

I made it to USCF A class without any serious opening study.  

You'd be 2600 if you played the opening like one then.  Of course that's not as easy as it sounds but it's good to be able to win without relying on the opening, one of my training exercises.

I just find my rating spikes the most when I eliminate the earliest mistakes, or find improvements that let me prepare in lines that are as sound as the main lines, just not yet studied.  There are tons of those.  Look at the Pelikan before Timoshenko and Shveshnikov began sparring with it in the 1970s.

I completely agree with you BettorOffSingle.

I find alot of players who get into a position they are familar with even if they only have memorized the first 5 moves they often feel alot more confidence in their game.

Confidence and comfort are really huge in chess that is for sure.