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taylteller

I really enjoy playing the King's Indian 4 pawn attack as white, even if I'm not great at it. I don't often reach that position though. What other openings give white a large (and solid) pawn centre, or even just a very mobile centre, if not a large one?

For that matter are there positions that allow black an aggressive pawn structure?

ThrillerFan

That you can force?  No!

The whole idea of the large pawn center is that your opponent has allowed you to build that large pawn center on the basis that they will chip away at what they hope to be an over-extended pawn center.

In essence, what you are looking for is the opposite side of any hypermodern opening.  The problem is, to get the opposite side of a hypermodern opening, your opponent must play a hypermodern opening and not a classical opening.

The Exchange Grunfeld gives White a big pawn center, but first Black has to play the Grunfeld, just like how Black has to play the King's Indian to give you the ability to play the Four Pawns Attack.

As Black, same thing.  If White plays something passive allowing you the big center, like Larsen's Opening or certain lines of the English, then you get a big center.  Trying to just outright force a big center when it's not available will do nothing but get you killed!

taylteller

Thanks for the info, that's helpful

Kretinovich

in the sveshnikov sicilian you get a lägre moveable center

Kretinovich

large *

Kretinovich

large *

Kretinovich

large *

Kretinovich

large *

taylteller

Nice, thanks, I'll have to try it out soon

ruben72d
Leo_C wrote:

in the sveshnikov sicilian you get a lägre moveable center

you're joking right?

Nerwal

The Sämisch variation of the Nimzo : 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. a3 Bxc3+ 5. bxc3 c5 6. e3 Nc6 7. Bd3 0-0 8. Ne2 b6 9. e4 Ne8 10. 0-0 Ba6 11. f4 f5 :

The funny thing is, this huge center is thought to be about useless and in modern times White players more often than not play the seemingly horrible moves dxc5 and exf5 to open the central files.

2travel
taylteller wrote:

I really enjoy playing the King's Indian 4 pawn attack as white, even if I'm not great at it. I don't often reach that position though. What other openings give white a large (and solid) pawn centre, or even just a very mobile centre, if not a large one?

For that matter are there positions that allow black an aggressive pawn structure?

love the 4 Pawns attack and even the 5 pawns attack!