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coolvicky10000

If your opponent made an unexpected move out of book lines what should you do? i am learning a repertoire from a book but if my opponent makes a move out of my repertoire lines what should i do please help.... and how big or vast a grand master repertoire?

ViktorHNielsen

Find out the difference between the "book move" and the move which your opponent played. What are the diffrences? Can you exploit it? If not, how can you best develope?

AyoDub

resign

csalami10

You should follow the opening principles and you will be fine.

kleelof
gmforever wrote:
coolvicky10000 wrote:

If your opponent made an unexpected move out of book lines what should you do? i am learning a repertoire from a book but if my opponent makes a move out of my repertoire lines what should i do please help.... and how big or vast a grand master repertoire?

If you can't figure out middle and endgame positions, and tactics right up to the 2200 level, then you are wasting your time.

This is partially crap advice.

It is not a waste of time to study ANYTHING about chess.

Probably, at your level, you should not be too serious about openings. But it never hurts to learn some theory and enjoy the learning experience.

kleelof

Yes. That is why I specified 'partial' as opposed to 'complete'.

I don't think the problem is so much that his opponents are going out of the opening book, but rather that he is relying too much on what is in his book.

But this does not mean that reading an opening book is a waste of time.

General-Mayhem

I remember IM Rensch giving some really good advice about this sort of thing - He said that it was more important to learn the important strategical ideas behind the pawn structures (e.g. Caro-Slav, Panov etc.) you get with your openings than memorising tons of moves. Therefore, when you understand the REASONS for the theoretical moves, they are both much easier to remember and much easier to apply when something unexpected happens. And if you really understand the structures, you are more likely to see why the 'unusual' move your opponent played is 'inaccurate' and be able to capitalise on it. 

Though if you are playing really sharp lines, then it's probably worth learning lots of the theory :P

kleelof
Major_Catastrophe wrote:

I remember IM Rensch giving some really good advice about this sort of thing - He said that it was more important to learn the important strategical ideas behind the pawn structures (e.g. Caro-Slav, Panov etc.) you get with your openings than memorising tons of moves. Therefore, when you understand the REASONS for the theoretical moves, they are both much easier to remember and much easier to apply when something unexpected happens. And if you really understand the structures, you are more likely to see why the 'unusual' move your opponent played is 'inaccurate' and be able to capitalise on it. 

Though if you are playing really sharp lines, then it's probably worth learning lots of the theory :P

Good advice. Sounds like this could help you avoid a major catastrophe.Laughing

General-Mayhem
kleelof wrote:

Good advice. Sounds like this could help you avoid a major catastrophe.

Hahaha I wish! Doesn't stop me from making loads of stupid tactical blunders though :(

UnicornMan

Just think for yourself.

schachfan1

I like Bent Larsen's advice - if you face opponent's move which is unknown to you - just go on making sound and developing moves, just follow the general rules - struggle for the center, develop pieces, keep your king in safety ... - what else can you do? And as for opening preparation - in order not to be caught so often by opponents' "out-of-book" moves - it's not difficult to understand that you probably should choose just a couple of opening variations, not many of them, and work them out - of course you need some theoretical knowledge of the lines, you should know some typical "out-of-book" ways in the variations you study, and you should know how to punish for opponents' typical mistakes (or not quite good moves) in "your" variations. And probably the most important thing - if you understand the idea of variations which you choose as your weapons - there should be not much danger when your opponent makes some "out-of-book" move - you just go on with your plan