Ponziani Opening

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ponz111

Well, it helped that I was well versed on that opening variation. Laughing\

But you are correct, it is much easier to come up with a master piece in vote chess than it is over-the-board...

zborg

Fascinating game, with a knockout blow (and imminent resignation) in less than 35 moves.  Black apparently made a number of technical errors, but they were so subtle the vote chess people (apparently) couldn't find them.

Great Game, PONZ.  Now if only those boneheads in the "Chess is a Draw with Best Play" thread would sit up and listen to you.  Hope Springs Eternal.  happy.png

congrandolor
ponz111 wrote:

Here is a vote chess game ended a few months back. Easy to find the best moves in vote chess when you have 3 days for one move plus a whole team working together...

The Chess Mine was White...

Opening Ponziani  Frasier Variation  [this is the most complicated of all

Ponziani variations...]



Beautiful one. I think that line is too risky to play otb, but fine in mail chess.

ponz111

Smile

congrandolor

What if, after 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.c3 Nf6 4.d4 Nxe4 5.d5 Bc5 6.dxc6 Bxf2+ 7.Ke2, black plays bxc6 instead of Bb6? What is white best continuation?

chadnilsen

hola

SmyslovFan
congrandolor wrote:

What if, after 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.c3 Nf6 4.d4 Nxe4 5.d5 Bc5 6.dxc6 Bxf2+ 7.Ke2, black plays bxc6 instead of Bb6? What is white best continuation?

White has a piece for three pawns. If White can get his pieces out, he will have an edge in the opening. So, 7...bc6 8.Qa4 followed by Nbd2 should give white an edge. The computer now suggests that 12...e4!  as played in Anderskewitz-Ghosh (2016) would have retained approximate equality for Black. 

congrandolor

Thanks, SmislovFan!

ponz111

I BELIEVE BOTH THE PONZIANI AND THE RUY L,OPEZ ARE DRAWS WHEN NEITHER SIDE MAKES A MISTAKE.

ALSO ANY OPENING WHICH STARTS WITH  1, e4   e5  IS A DRAW WHEN NEITHER SIDE MAKES A MISTAKE.

THE SMITH MORRA GAMBIT MAY NOW BE REFUTED  1. e4   c5  2. d4   cxd4  3. c3  RIP KEN SMITH

FAVORITE OPENINGS FOR ME INCL.UDE 1. d4  and  1. c4

chadnilsen

why caps. also why u bump.

ponz111

SORRY ABOUT CAPS-=-=I HAVE HEALTH PROBLEM.

NOT SURE WHAT YOU MEAN ABOUT ME BUMPING??

SocialPanda

Hello Ponzi, so the English 1.c4, is not your 2nd favourite opening anymore?

ponz111

VASSILYSKNIGHT   PLS TRY 15. Bg5

ponz111

The Ponziani Opening is a great opening for the class A player. You will score many wins.

The Ponziani  Opening is far better than its reputation, I have won many games with the Ponziani vs all classes of players up to grandmaster.

Have not yet won any games vs Super Grand Masters--but maybe that is because I have not played against any Suoer Grand Masters? tongue.pngwink.pngtongue.png

 

  

ponz111

complex--I don't remember that offer. Probably it was in a certain  variation of the Ponziani. 

There were some strong players who disagreed with me on this variatioin  1. e4  e5 2. Nf3  Nc6

3. c3    d5   4. Bb5   ---until I proved them wrong.

Pfren is a very strong correspondence player and  knows the Ponziani.

By the way--all openings which start 1. e4  e5  are draws with very best play from  both sides.

 

RorschachTest1

hi happy.png i have some analysis of the Vukovic gambit variation. what do you think of it? is this something a human being could play or is this sort of crazy stuff just for computers? (there is also some analysis of some other lines that i looked into)

 

pfren
RorschachTest1 έγραψε:

hi  i have some analysis of the Vukovic gambit variation. what do you think of it? is this something a human being could play or is this sort of crazy stuff just for computers? (there is also some analysis of some other lines that i looked into)

 

 

I would never bother to learn this crap as Black.

The simple 3...Nf6 4.d4 exd4 5.e5 Nd5 is just fine for him, suitable to play for a win, and also usable against the Goring gambit, which is more common than the Ponziani.

RorschachTest1

understandable. besides it would be rather hard to memorize exactly how to make a draw in every line when down a bunch of material, and even then you might have to play it out and ruin the draw....

ponz111

Have noticed there has been many recent and interersting postings on you tube on the Ponziani.

Ponziani fans will really enjoy,tongue.png

laurengoodkindchess

Hi! My name is Lauren Goodkind and I’m a chess coach based and chess book author based in California: www.ChessByLauren.com

I love the Ponziani!  It's a great opening.  I've been playing it for the last several years!