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wiselady

is queen's indian defense supposed to be a super hero?

Ambassador_Spock

No.

wiselady

why does the picture show a heroine?

Pulpofeira

I'd say she is the Black Queen.

ThrillerFan
wiselady wrote:

why does the picture show a heroine?

Stupid advertising.  You can't even play the Queen's Indian as a standalone defense.  You have to pair it together with either the Nimzo-Indian (3.Nc3 Bb4), Queen's Gambit Declined (3.Nc3 d5), or Modern Benoni (3.Nc3 c5), and you better have an answer for the Catalan (3.g3).  After 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6, if White plays 3.Nc3, then 3...b6? would just demonstrate that the player playing the Queen's Indian has no clue why they are playing it.  It's only playable after 3.Nf3.  The reason is simple.

Why do you play 1...Nf6 in response to 1.d4?  To prevent e4!

After 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3, does White threaten e4?  NO!  Therefore, you can play 3...b6, intending 4...Bb7 or 4...Ba6, maintaining control of e4.

After 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3, why does Black play 3...d5 or 3...Bb4?  To prevent e4!  The former by adding another defender of the e4-square, the latter indirectly by pinning the attacker of e4, namely the knight on c3.

After 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 b6? 4.e4!! - Advantage White!

wiselady

Do u feel like a superhero when u play the queens indian defense

toiyabe
rdecredico wrote:

4. ... Bb4 and Black is fine in that line.

4. a3 is a better move than is e4. 

Or not.  

Ambassador_Spock
Pulpofeira wrote:

I'd say she is the Black Queen.

That is correct.

Ambassador_Spock
ThrillerFan wrote:
You can't even play the Queen's Indian as a standalone defense.

In normal over-the-board games, that is quite correct.  However, the opening in question is played regularly in our group through preset starting positions.  There are 47 Queen's Indian Defense starting positions in chess.com's database that are used for our Vote Chess games, Team Matches, and Tournaments.

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Opening discussions of this nature are enlightening and informative.  It is a pity, however, that it is held in absence of any practical method to test these ideas or put them into immediate practice.  The Queen's Indian Defense group and other similar opening groups afford the best of both worlds by providing a venue to discuss opening ideas while in the midst of an actual game.  

Please see my Personal Log ["Learning An Opening"] for more information. 

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wiselady wrote:

Do u feel like a superhero when u play the queens indian defense

No, but perhaps you may feel like a "superheroine" if you play it.

Below are the aforementioned starting positions.

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ECOOpening  
E14 Queen's Indian Defense: Spassky System
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 b6 4.e3
   
E15 Queen's Indian Defense: Fianchetto Variation, Check Variation Intermezzo Line
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Ba6 5.b3 Bb4+ 6.Bd2 Be7
   
E17 Queen's Indian Defense: Classical Variation, Traditional Variation
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 Be7 6.O-O O-O 7.Nc3
   
E12 Queen's Indian Defense: Kasparov Variation
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 b6 4.Nc3
   
E15 Queen's Indian Defense: Fianchetto Variation, Nimzowitsch Variation
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Ba6
   
E12 Queen's Indian Defense: Petrosian Variation
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 b6 4.a3
   
E19 Queen's Indian Defense: Classical Variation, Traditional Variation Main Line
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 Be7 6.O-O O-O 7.Nc3 Ne4 8.Qc2 Nxc3 9.Qxc3
   
E15 Queen's Indian Defense: Fianchetto Variation, Nimzowitsch Variation Quiet Line
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Ba6 5.b3
   
E18 Queen's Indian Defense: Classical Variation, Traditional Variation Nimowitsch Line
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 Be7 6.O-O O-O 7.Nc3 d5
   
E12 Queen's Indian Defense: Kasparov-Petrosian Variation, Main Line
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 b6 4.Nc3 Bb7 5.a3 d5
   
E15 Queen's Indian Defense: Fianchetto Variation, Nimzowitsch Variation Nimzowitsch Attack
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Ba6 5.Qa4+
   
E16 Queen's Indian Defense: Capablanca Variation
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 Bb4+
   
E11 Queen's Indian Defense: Petrosian Variation, Farago Defense
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 b6 4.a3 Ba6 5.Qc2 Bb7
   
E12 Queen's Indian Defense: Kasparov-Petrosian Variation, Classical Variation
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 b6 4.Nc3 Bb7 5.a3 d5 6.cxd5 exd5
   
E12 Queen's Indian Defense: Kasparov-Petrosian Variation, Kasparov Attack
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 b6 4.Nc3 Bb7 5.a3 d5 6.cxd5 Nxd5 7.Qc2
   
E12 Queen's Indian Defense: Kasparov-Petrosian Variation, Marco Defense
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 b6 4.Nc3 Bb7 5.a3 Be7
   
E12 Queen's Indian Defense: Kasparov-Petrosian Variation, Petrosian Attack
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 b6 4.Nc3 Bb7 5.a3 d5 6.cxd5 Nxd5 7.e3
   
E15 Queen's Indian Defense: Fianchetto Variation
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3
   
E17 Queen's Indian Defense: Classical Variation
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 Be7 6.O-O
   
E12 Queen's Indian Defense
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 b6
   
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ECOOpening  
E17 Queen's Indian Defense: Opocensky Variation
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 Be7 6.Nc3 Ne4 7.Bd2
   
E17 Queen's Indian Defense: Anti-Queen's Indian System
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 Be7 6.Nc3
   
E12 Queen's Indian Defense: Miles Variation
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 b6 4.Bf4
   
E13 Queen's Indian Defense: Kasparov Variation
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 b6 4.Nc3 Bb7 5.Bg5 h6 6.Bh4 Bb4
   
E16 Queen's Indian Defense: Riumin Variation
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 Bb4+ 6.Bd2 Be7
   
E17 Queen's Indian Defense: Classical Variation, Polugayevsky Gambit
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 Be7 6.O-O O-O 7.d5 exd5 8.Nh4
   
E16 Queen's Indian Defense: Yates Variation
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 Bb4+ 6.Bd2 a5
   
E17 Queen's Indian Defense: Kasparov-Petrosian Variation, Hedgehog Variation
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 b6 4.Nc3 Bb7 5.a3 g6
   
E15 Queen's Indian Defense: Fianchetto Traditional
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7
   
E15 Queen's Indian Defense: Fianchetto Variation, Saemisch Variation
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 c5
   
E15 Queen's Indian Defense: Fianchetto Variation, Nimzowitsch Variation Timman's Line
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Ba6 5.Qb3
   
E12 Queen's Indian Defense: Kasparov-Petrosian Variation, Andersson Variation
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 b6 4.Nc3 Bb7 5.a3 Ne4
   
E16 Queen's Indian Defense: Fianchetto Variation, Rubinstein Variation
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 c5 6.d5 exd5 7.Nh4
   
E17 Queen's Indian Defense: Euwe Variation
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 Be7 6.O-O O-O 7.b3
   
E12 Queen's Indian Defense: Kasparov-Petrosian Variation, Romanishin Attack
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 b6 4.Nc3 Bb7 5.a3 d5 6.cxd5 Nxd5 7.Bd2
   
E17 Queen's Indian Defense: Fianchetto Variation, Kramnik Variation
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 Be7 6.O-O O-O 7.Re1
   
E17 Queen's Indian Defense: Classical Variation, Tiviakov Defense
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 Be7 6.O-O O-O 7.Nc3 Na6
   
E17 Queen's Indian Defense: Kasparov-Petrosian Variation
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 b6 4.Nc3 Bb7 5.a3
   
E15 Queen's Indian Defense: Fianchetto Variation, Check Variation
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Ba6 5.b3 Bb4+
   
E12 Queen's Indian Defense: Kasparov Variation, Botvinnik Attack
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 b6 4.Nc3 Bb7 5.Bg5 h6 6.Bh4 g5 7.Bg3 Nh5
   
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ECOOpening  
E12 Queen's Indian Defense: Kasparov-Petrosian Variation, Rashkovsky Attack
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 b6 4.Nc3 Bb7 5.a3 d5 6.cxd5 Nxd5 7.Qa4+
   
A47 Queen's Indian Defense: Marienbad System, Berg Variation
1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 b6 3.g3 Bb7 4.Bg2 c5 5.c4 cxd4 6.Qxd4
   
E17 Queen's Indian Defense: Classical Variation, Taimanov Gambit
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 Be7 6.O-O O-O 7.d5 exd5 8.Nd4
   
E12 Queen's Indian Defense: Kasparov-Petrosian Variation, Modern Variation
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 b6 4.Nc3 Bb7 5.a3 d5 6.cxd5 Nxd5
   
E12 Queen's Indian Defense: Kasparov-Petrosian Variation, Polovodin Gambit
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 b6 4.Nc3 Bb7 5.a3 d5 6.cxd5 Nxd5 7.e4
   
E17 Queen's Indian Defense: Traditional Variation
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 Be7
   
E15 Queen's Indian Defense: Fianchetto Variation, Check Variation Modern Line
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Ba6 5.b3 Bb4+ 6.Bd2 Qe7
   
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Anatoly Yevgenyevich Karpov (born May 23, 1951) is a Russian grandmaster, former World Champion, and considered to be one of the greatest players of all time.  Karpov is the Queen's Indian Defense's most notable exponent.  His style is exactly like this opening: correct and safe with possibilities for active play. 

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Correction, 49.

E15 Queen's Indian,Buerger Variation
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 c5 6.d5 exd5 7.Ng5
   
E14 Queen's Indian,Averbakh Variation
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 b6 4.e3 Bb7 5.Bd3 c5 6.O-O Be7 7.b3 O-O 8.Bb2 cxd4 9.Nxd4
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Queen's Indian Defense Tournament

The "Queen's Indian Defense" group is proud to sponsor this thematic tournament featuring the Queen's Indian Defense.  All games will begin with the preset position: 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 b6. 

The tournament will host 100 participants in 10 groups of 10.

  The winner of each group will in turn participate in a 2nd and final round with all 10 finalists.

Participants will play up to 9 rated games simultaneously.

The top 3 finalists will receive custom trophies.

http://www.chess.com/tournament/queens-indian-defense6

Trophies:

1st Place 2nd Place 3rd Place

The Queen's Indian Defense (QID) is defined by the moves:

1. d4 Nf6
2. c4 e6
3. Nf3 b6

This opening is a solid defense to the Queen's Pawn Game, 1.d4. With 3...b6 Black increases their control over the central light squares e4 and d5 by preparing to fianchetto the queen's bishop. The opening derives its name from this maneuver.  As in other Indian defenses, Black attempts to control the center with pieces, instead of occupying it with pawns in a more classical style.

By playing 3.Nf3, White sidesteps the Nimzo-Indian Defense that arises after 3.Nc3 Bb4. The Queen's Indian Defense is regarded as the sister opening of the Nimzo-Indian, since both openings aim to impede White's efforts to gain full control of the center by playing e2–e4. Together, they form one of Black's most well-respected responses to 1.d4.


 
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