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clunney

This evening, I played a game against one of my friends (who is 2084 USCF) and I had white. It was a silly game, and I played the Parham. My friend laughed, and then played 2. ...Nf6 and said that this move refutes the Parham. Is that accurate? And does it have a name? (I lost badly by the way!!)

kco

It called "The Loser Queen Opening"

DrSpudnik

It's a sill question for a person with a 9000 USCF rating to ask.

ilikeflags

i have no idea what anyone is talking about.

Conquistador

Fishsticks

clunney

Harry, if 1. e4 e5 2. Qh5 Nf6 refutes it, then white should lose every time! Definition of a refutation!

quzishen

You mean this move?http://www.chess.com/opening/eco/C20_King_Pawn_Game_Wayward_Queen_Attack_Kiddie_Countergambit

DrSpudnik

It isn't the "refutation" of it, but if White is going to play so lamely, almost anything gives Black equality or better.

netzach
quzishen wrote:

You mean this move? naff opening

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gimmewuchagot

How many times have we seen beginners play the game:

1.e4 e5 2.Qh5 g6 3.Qxe5+

They don't learn from their mistakes, I guess.

AlCzervik

massaquoi wrote:

I was having lunch with Nick deFirmian a few months ago in Berkeley and he told me that the "Patzer" or "Parham" opening is going to be included in Modern Chess Openings, 16th ed. for the first time.

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What a coincidence! Just the other day I was out with Magnus, swilling brew and chasing babes. We met two lovely ladies and started discussing chess. One of the ladies mentioned the parham and Magnus just laughed (he still went home with her).

BennyTifkin
gimmewuchagot wrote:

How many times have we seen beginners play the game:

1.e4 e5 2.Qh5 g6 3.Qxe5+

They don't learn from their mistakes, I guess.

I have never seen this.

Experimental93

Almost any opening works against the Parham.

Or_theBashaKiller

i like playing the gambit as black. 1.e4 e5 2.Qh5 Nf6 3.Qxe5+ 

black is gaining time for development for the pawn while white is behind.

though im not an e5 player , i play 1.e4 c5 making the parham irrelevant .

clunney

Qh5 happens in the Steinitz french too???? That is hysterical! I know my new pet line against the French!